gtmoBlue wrote:2 points...
1) Marquette was a top program long before joining the BE. IMO they sustained what they already had. That is different from the 3 newbies...we are building with the BE brand.
2) you want DePaul, Marquette, StJ, and Gtwn "back"? okay.
Possible look-
Gtwn 26-5 / 16-2
Marq 24-6 / 15-3
Nova 24-6/ 15-3
StJ 23-7/ 13-5
X 23-7/ 12-6
DeP 22-9/ 11-7
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But / 6-12
Crei/ 5-13
Prov/ 4-14
SH/ 3-15
For the old power to rise, the wins gotta come from somewhere...they come from the mid and top tiers. It ain't rocket science.
You want the old teams strong again...the bottom 4 become the "new" underclass. the top 2 tiers rotate their positions from time to time. Butler and Creighton get relegated to the bottom tier, and promising recent teams Hall and Prov go back to their former status in the old BE. Without new blood, these 4 would remain the bottom indefinitely.
Yes, 1 or 2 of the top six may "slump" from time to time, giving the possibility of 1 of the bottom feeders to temporarily rise. How often did that happen in the former BE?
Fortunately it ain't gonna happen. Maybe 1 or 2 recover but not all 4. Let's say StJ rises, going from 6 to 15 wins. Those additional 9 wins come from the middle and top, dropping the Nova's, X's, Creig's, But's, Prov's, SH's numbers, the bottom stands fast, continuing to feed the rest.
Sacrificial lambs- that's what DePaul (11-13 years worth), StJ, Marquette, and Gtwn are today. That's what SH and Prov used to be. Everybody can't be 13-5 in conference.
Nova couldn't win 4 straight titles without the doormats (and a middlin middle tier).
In your bloodbath...Everyone ends up 12-6 thru 7-11? Everyone is in the middle, no one gets ranked?Answer: They should have. All the C7 would dance annually if they had.With that logic why didn’t the C7 add SLU, LaSalle and Richmond to the BE instead of X, BU and CU?
gtmoBlue wrote:Let's leave the 20 game schedule out for a moment.
18 games...
Nova 15-3
Xav 14-4
Those 27 wins come from everyone below them, with maybe a split between the 2 teams-
Prov and SH rose due to coaching AND less better teams above them...no S'cuse, Pitt, L'ville, UConn, others. Now only Nova and Xavier above them in a given year.
Gumby, my man. You want DePaul back AND for Nova to stay in the top 2...same as I want StJ back ANd for the Jays to stay in the top 4.
Look at what the bottom 3 are doing lately - reeking havok on the 3-7 teams...even Nova and X have taken a couple of hits. If Depaul- StJ- Gtw
n where firing on all cylinders, and were rising to the top, this would merely be the beginning of the carnage. The current middle would become the new bottom.
Irishdawg wrote:It depends what kind of teams the league is getting. Right now the full round robin ensures that everyone's SOS is in a good spot and there are plenty of opportunities for quality wins.
GumbyDamnit! wrote:I would absolutely prefer Nova finishing 12-6 in conference if the league had 10 teams in the top 50 instead of 5 teams and finishing 16-2.
gtmoBlue wrote:Answer: They should have. All the C7 would dance annually if they had.With that logic why didn’t the C7 add SLU, LaSalle and Richmond to the BE instead of X, BU and CU?
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