Page 2 of 2
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:05 pmby stever20
Johnny23 wrote:Seton Hall has too many good wins. They are almost a lock to make the tourney at this point as long as they don't lose all of their remaining games. If they beat Creighton or UConn they not only get in but they get a favorable seed. Shaheen has proven himself to be a top line coach. Happy for him.
The Mountain West is getting 6 teams in, book it. I think Big East gets 5 in. None of Nova, SJU, Xavier or Butler deserve to be in the tourney at this point IMO.
I don't think Seton Hall gets that great of a seed. They seem destined for the pit of misery- 7-10 land.
Nova has a real shot.
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:19 pmby Hall2012
Many seem to think that (short of a very efficient win at Creighton or UConn), Seton Hall's ceiling is Dayton bc of their metrics (since the committee supposedly seeds on NET and SHU's will likely be among the lowest of the at-larges, should they get in.)
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:22 pmby stever20
Hall2012 wrote:Many seem to think that (short of a very efficient win at Creighton or UConn), Seton Hall's ceiling is Dayton bc of their metrics (since the committee supposedly seeds on NET and SHU's will likely be among the lowest of the at-larges, should they get in.)
Yeah I heard the getting in the tourney is the results based metrics, but seeding is more predictive based.
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:31 pmby Hall2012
stever20 wrote:Hall2012 wrote:Many seem to think that (short of a very efficient win at Creighton or UConn), Seton Hall's ceiling is Dayton bc of their metrics (since the committee supposedly seeds on NET and SHU's will likely be among the lowest of the at-larges, should they get in.)
Yeah I heard the getting in the tourney is the results based metrics, but seeding is more predictive based.
It's stupid, IMO, to use predictive metrics in sports for anything other than talking points and maybe evaluating strength of schedule. There's no sense in punishing a team for winning more than a data model thinks they should. This coming from someone who's career is in data based decision making.
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:33 pmby Johnny23
stever20 wrote:Johnny23 wrote:Seton Hall has too many good wins. They are almost a lock to make the tourney at this point as long as they don't lose all of their remaining games. If they beat Creighton or UConn they not only get in but they get a favorable seed. Shaheen has proven himself to be a top line coach. Happy for him.
The Mountain West is getting 6 teams in, book it. I think Big East gets 5 in. None of Nova, SJU, Xavier or Butler deserve to be in the tourney at this point IMO.
I don't think Seton Hall gets that great of a seed. They seem destined for the pit of misery- 7-10 land.
Nova has a real shot.
Nova has some serious work to do. They are not in today. Seton Hall is regardless of what the metrics say.
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:04 pmby stever20
Will be interesting tomorrow to see how high up St John's gets. They win last 3 games- against Butler, DePaul, and Georgetown- they're 11-9 in the Big East. Could avoid Wednesday night pretty easily. Win in a 4/5 game could easily get them dancing there then.
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:16 pmby Johnny23
stever20 wrote:Will be interesting tomorrow to see how high up St John's gets. They win last 3 games- against Butler, DePaul, and Georgetown- they're 11-9 in the Big East. Could avoid Wednesday night pretty easily. Win in a 4/5 game could easily get them dancing there then.
Yeah that would be an ideal scenario.
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:19 pmby billyjack
Is NET still using its mystery formula, with ESPN's special sauce baked into the numbers?
Re: Bubble Watch 2/23/24
Posted:
Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:16 amby stever20
billyjack wrote:Is NET still using its mystery formula, with ESPN's special sauce baked into the numbers?
whatever the secret sauce is, it's really helping the Big East this year.