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(1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:09 am
by MUPanther
Butler @ St. John's, 6:30, FS1 - Noah Eagle, Jim Jackson
Line: St. John's -6/135.5

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:20 pm
by sju88grad
Completely confused by the point spread here…..

3 SJU players out with Covid……not playing well lately……

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:25 pm
by stever20
sju88grad wrote:Completely confused by the point spread here…..

3 SJU players out with Covid……not playing well lately……

probably a bit of an overreaction to how bad Butler got killed on Saturday. And the fact that it's @ St John's.

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:31 pm
by stever20
game has been postponed due to Covid.

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:54 pm
by sju88grad
Game officially postponed….

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:34 pm
by butlerguy03
Good question from the Butler Board: Who pays for the charter plane? How about the hotel rooms? Is the Big East working with schools on that or is it just "too bad?"

I think that is my question about the "reschedule" rule that has been changed. It made more sense if the visitor paid to travel and was able to play, and if the home team became unable to play, especially on day-of, for it to be a forfeit. Not sure how you square the two up. Travel to St. John's now will cost double what it normally does, and it wasn't caused by Butler. Also, a reschedule messes up the visiting team's schedule much more than a home team.

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:13 pm
by Omaha1
Once they rescinded the forfeiture terms, what’s the incentive for St Johns to try and play considering they were going to be without multiple significant players? Much easier for them to ask for a no contest.

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:31 pm
by ArmyVet
butlerguy03 wrote:Good question from the Butler Board: Who pays for the charter plane? How about the hotel rooms? Is the Big East working with schools on that or is it just "too bad?"

I think that is my question about the "reschedule" rule that has been changed. It made more sense if the visitor paid to travel and was able to play, and if the home team became unable to play, especially on day-of, for it to be a forfeit. Not sure how you square the two up. Travel to St. John's now will cost double what it normally does, and it wasn't caused by Butler. Also, a reschedule messes up the visiting team's schedule much more than a home team.

Feel bad for any fans who traveled to NYC considering what hotels, etc cost in the city during the holidays.

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:42 pm
by stever20
Omaha1 wrote:Once they rescinded the forfeiture terms, what’s the incentive for St Johns to try and play considering they were going to be without multiple significant players? Much easier for them to ask for a no contest.


sounds like if you have 7 or more scholarship players you have to play- no wiggle room at all on that it sounds like it. No matter if they are significant or not.

Re: (1) Thurs. Game/ Butler @ St. John's 12/23/21

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm
by Omaha1
stever20 wrote:
Omaha1 wrote:Once they rescinded the forfeiture terms, what’s the incentive for St Johns to try and play considering they were going to be without multiple significant players? Much easier for them to ask for a no contest.


sounds like if you have 7 or more scholarship players you have to play- no wiggle room at all on that it sounds like it. No matter if they are significant or not.

What if players are out for the season, or even just injured and unable to play that game, or maybe redshirting? By definition, are they available? Possible that a coach could bend the rules and state that players are unavailable for reasons that push them below the seven player threshold.