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4 - Butler
24 - Villanova
38 - Georgetown
43 - DePaul
53 - Marquette
55 - Seton Hall
56 - Creighton
65 - St. John’s
69 - UConn
71 - Xavier
146 - Providence

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketbal ... t-rankings

thunderbird wrote:4 - Butler
24 - Villanova
38 - Georgetown
43 - DePaul
53 - Marquette
55 - Seton Hall
56 - Creighton
65 - St. John’s
69 - UConn
71 - Xavier
146 - Providence

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketbal ... t-rankings

Didn't realize this was coming out today. Looks bad on the surface but it's not too bad for the conference if you take out obvious teams that don't belong (ie Duquesne) from the top.

https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Nitty%20Gritty%20-%20Dec.%2015,%202019.pdf

Expanded view. That loss to Buffalo is just a killer.

Pretty good. Everyone besides Providence would be a Q1 away game (top 75). 10/11 teams have a shot at Dancing (all 10 better than St. John's #73 NET last year- which obviously was an outlier but we still made the Tournament due to all our Q1 wins). I'm thinking we'll get around 6 in. I'm thrilled to see the Johnnies so high!

The quad records on the Nitty Gritty chart aren't correct.

On the Nitty Gritty for DePaul for instance they have them as 2-0 1-0 1-0 0-0. They in reality are 2-0 1-0 1-1 5-0.

In General, no where near as many interlopers this year compared to last year initially.

adoraz wrote:Pretty good. Everyone besides Providence would be a Q1 away game (top 75). 10/11 teams have a shot at Dancing (all 10 better than St. John's #73 NET last year- which obviously was an outlier but we still made the Tournament due to all our Q1 wins). I'm thinking we'll get around 6 in. I'm thrilled to see the Johnnies so high!

It'll be interesting to see whoever finishes in the 8th/9th positions if they can finish in the top 75.

Bit surprised with Seton Hall so low, but 10 and 20 point losses don't help. Also for them their NCAA profile- only the road game at SLU right now a Q1 game (Iowa St is #82- so neutral at top 50 not close). they lose to Maryland and it's going to take bare minimum 11 conference wins to get in- with a tough conference.

stever20 wrote:

adoraz wrote:Pretty good. Everyone besides Providence would be a Q1 away game (top 75). 10/11 teams have a shot at Dancing (all 10 better than St. John's #73 NET last year- which obviously was an outlier but we still made the Tournament due to all our Q1 wins). I'm thinking we'll get around 6 in. I'm thrilled to see the Johnnies so high!

It'll be interesting to see whoever finishes in the 8th/9th positions if they can finish in the top 75.

Bit surprised with Seton Hall so low, but 10 and 20 point losses don't help. Also for them their NCAA profile- only the road game at SLU right now a Q1 game (Iowa St is #82- so neutral at top 50 not close). they lose to Maryland and it's going to take bare minimum 11 conference wins to get in- with a tough conference.

I doubt 9/10 will finish top 75, but that'd likely mean another team rising in the rankings so not really a bad thing. We could reasonably have 7-8 teams finish in the top 75 (not counting UConn).

I don't feel like speculating on Hall this early (remember how this time last year nobody thought St. John's would get in at 9-9... let alone 8-10?). That said, Hall may be in trouble if they don't start winning a few games. As far as the conference overall, I'd say that's offset by St. John's playing way above expectations and already having a Q1 win vs WVU... though I'm a bit biased.

the problem for Seton Hall is just going to be raw record. Them at 9-9 assuming they lose to Maryland(assuming w/o Powell) and they are 16-14. That's definitely not good enough. they need 11 conference wins I think.

stever20 wrote:
In General, no where near as many interlopers this year compared to last year initially.

Last year's NET came out too early for a ranking that doesn't start off basically being someone's opinion, which will always put the usual suspects at the top. Made it a bit too volatile. This year, even the teams that raise an eyebrow (SDSU, Duquesne, Richmond, UNI) have done enough by this point, to show that while they may be ranked a bit too high in NET, they are certainly solid teams, and should be somewhere in the top 75, which they are in basically all of the other computer rankings.

I like that there's something to check everyday. Creighton jumped 17 spots to 39.