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Bye Bye RPI

Postby Hall2012 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:12 am

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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby ArmyVet » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:46 pm

The NCAA announced Wednesday it has developed the NCAA Evaluation Tool, known as NET, to replace the RPI as the primary sorting tool for teams under consideration for the NCAA tournament.

The change is effective immediately; NET will be used instead of RPI for the 2018-19 season.

NET will take into account game results, strength of schedule, game location, scoring margin, offensive and defensive efficiency and the quality of wins and losses.


So how does the NET really differ from the RPI? Sounds awfully similar to me.
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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby Hall2012 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:18 pm

It's basically RPI with a little bit of KenPom factored in and given a shiny new name.
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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby Doge McDermott » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:56 pm

So come tourney time, the committee is going to rely on nothing but NET?

...I'll see myself out...
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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby ArmyVet » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:51 am

Hall2012 wrote:It's basically RPI with a little bit of KenPom factored in and given a shiny new name.

My thought as well. So how long before we here the chants to get rid of the NET?
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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby stever20 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:00 am

Hall2012 wrote:It's basically RPI with a little bit of KenPom factored in and given a shiny new name.


I think given that it's going to have MOV factored in at all is a huge difference.

The really interesting thing to wait to see about is what it would have done with Providence last year....

They were #32 in RPI. But in the composite rating they had last year- they were #46.17.

compare that to Penn St. They were #77 in RPI, but in the composite rating(which I think the NET will be much closer to)- they were #49.67. So would Penn St now be a lot closer to Providence in the selection process? That's a huge game changer.
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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby kayako » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:43 am

It won't affect the Big East that much, but overall it sounds like a big improvement. A few things I like:

-Backed by Google
-Margin of victory capped at 10
-OT results always +1 for the winner -1 for the loser
-adjusted winning percentage rewarding road wins and punishing home losers
-takes into account efficiency numbers
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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby bmorex » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:10 pm

kayako wrote:It won't affect the Big East that much, but overall it sounds like a big improvement. A few things I like:

-Backed by Google
-Margin of victory capped at 10
-OT results always +1 for the winner -1 for the loser
-adjusted winning percentage rewarding road wins and punishing home losers
-takes into account efficiency numbers


Margin of victory is way too low. Should be closer to 20-25.
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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby stever20 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:13 pm

kayako wrote:It won't affect the Big East that much, but overall it sounds like a big improvement. A few things I like:

-Backed by Google
-Margin of victory capped at 10
-OT results always +1 for the winner -1 for the loser
-adjusted winning percentage rewarding road wins and punishing home losers
-takes into account efficiency numbers


It could impact the Big East some. Providence had some pretty poor advanced metrics. Games last year going forward like Belmont +1, Rider +4, Brown +5 in OT, and Stony Brook +2 would hurt them a lot in this new metric. Even in conference play- the 7 point DePaul win and the 4 and 5 point Georgetown wins would be killers. Close wins vs bad teams are going to hurt a lot more now than they ever used to. All those close wins will be a much larger negative than we've ever seen.
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Re: Bye Bye RPI

Postby stever20 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:13 pm

bmorex wrote:
kayako wrote:It won't affect the Big East that much, but overall it sounds like a big improvement. A few things I like:

-Backed by Google
-Margin of victory capped at 10
-OT results always +1 for the winner -1 for the loser
-adjusted winning percentage rewarding road wins and punishing home losers
-takes into account efficiency numbers


Margin of victory is way too low. Should be closer to 20-25.

I don't know about 20-25, but 15-20 seems to me to be the sweet spot....
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