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Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:26 am**

stever20 wrote:last year the average bracketologist got a score of 337.8. Lunardi had 344 and Palm 343. So that's above average.... Even with the rating, if you add in all the new people- Lunardi would be #92 of 187. Which would be even with that just above average. People here for some reason want to act like he's awful. But he's just not. The numbers just don't show that at all.

Nice cherry-pick, stever. They are ranked by the 5-yr average in that list. The average score for each bracketologist's 5-yr average is 7.85. Lunardi's is 3.32, and Palm's is 0.92. Even my infant grandson could tell you that those scores are well below average. If this is how sloppy your statistical work is when you inundate all of us with your blather on how bad the BE is and how good the AAAAAACCCC is, we should all ignore everything you write. In fact, "Ignore" is now my designation for your posts going forward.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:23 am**

kayako wrote:
X-man wrote:Stever20, why do you go onto another BE board to trash BE posters-me in particular-on this board (Link: https://csnbbs.com/thread-774558-post-15252214.html#pid15252214)? Better yet, why don't you just stop pretending to be a BE fan. Everyone knows that you are really an AAAAAAAACCCCC fan pretending to be a BE fan. You ought to be embarrassed.

I feel like the AAC has had to some degree buzzards luck while the Big East has had extremely good luck.

lol

Yep and here is how he came to that: "If the AAC teams had won more and if the Big East Teams had won less, then the AAC would be better than the BE"

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:00 pm**

Here's the rest of Stever's BE luck:

Big East has had a lot of things go just right over the last 5 years to get more bids. Year 1, if Providence doesn't win the BET, they are out of the tourney. 2017, if the injuries don't happen at Xavier and Creighton, Providence and Marquette don't make the tourney. This year Butler gets a last 30 seconds shot to beat Seton Hall, or they're sweating bullets on selection Sunday.

Cue the Stever gif!

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:32 pm**

It's so unfair that the Big East games the RPI by winning a lot of games against strong opponents in non-conference play! They should start losing to mainly low-majors like the AAC to level the playing field.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:42 pm**

Wizard of Westroads wrote:Here's the rest of Stever's BE luck:
Big East has had a lot of things go just right over the last 5 years to get more bids. Year 1, if Providence doesn't win the BET, they are out of the tourney. 2017, if the injuries don't happen at Xavier and Creighton, Providence and Marquette don't make the tourney. This year Butler gets a last 30 seconds shot to beat Seton Hall, or they're sweating bullets on selection Sunday.

Cue the Stever gif!

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:46 pm**

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Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:24 pm**

MarquetteRustler wrote:
Wizard of Westroads wrote:Here's the rest of Stever's BE luck:
Big East has had a lot of things go just right over the last 5 years to get more bids. Year 1, if Providence doesn't win the BET, they are out of the tourney. 2017, if the injuries don't happen at Xavier and Creighton, Providence and Marquette don't make the tourney. This year Butler gets a last 30 seconds shot to beat Seton Hall, or they're sweating bullets on selection Sunday.

Cue the Stever gif!

This gif NEVER gets old!!!......always makes me laugh.....thanks for re-posting!....that gif should have its own thread!

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:06 am**

stever20 wrote:last year the average bracketologist got a score of 337.8. Lunardi had 344 and Palm 343. So that's above average.... Even with the rating, if you add in all the new people- Lunardi would be #92 of 187. Which would be even with that just above average. People here for some reason want to act like he's awful. But he's just not. The numbers just don't show that at all.

No statistician would call 344 and 343 “above average” when the mean is 337.8. Statisticians refer to “average” as a score that falls within a pre-defined middle range - typically +/- one standard deviation. Otherwise, only 1% (the 50th percentile) of any population would be considered “average” - which is obviously not what we’re talking about when we refer to someone as “average”. Average normally refers to the vast middle of any population. Someone who falls at the 55th percentile is as average as someone who falls at the 50th percentile, or the 45th percentile, etc. The numbers you quote for Linardi and Palm are as average as average can be, nowhere near “above average”. Being slightly above the mean or median (mid point) would never qualify as “above average”.

So much of sports analysis revolves around statistics. Unfortunately too many people who throw around stats - including some of the people who publish them - never took a statistics course in their life and don’t really understand statistics.

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:46 am**

Bill Marsh wrote:
stever20 wrote:last year the average bracketologist got a score of 337.8. Lunardi had 344 and Palm 343. So that's above average.... Even with the rating, if you add in all the new people- Lunardi would be #92 of 187. Which would be even with that just above average. People here for some reason want to act like he's awful. But he's just not. The numbers just don't show that at all.

No statistician would call 344 and 343 “above average” when the mean is 337.8. Statisticians refer to “average” as a score that falls within a pre-defined middle range - typically +/- one standard deviation. Otherwise, only 1% (the 50th percentile) of any population would be considered “average” - which is obviously not what we’re talking about when we refer to someone as “average”. Average normally refers to the vast middle of any population. Someone who falls at the 55th percentile is as average as someone who falls at the 50th percentile, or the 45th percentile, etc. The numbers you quote for Linardi and Palm are as average as average can be, nowhere near “above average”. Being slightlyabove the mean or median (mid point) would never qualify as “above average”.

So much of sports analysis revolves around statistics. Unfortunately too many people who throw around stats - including some of the people who publish them - never took a statistics course in their life and don’t really understand statistics.

ok- but there again they aren't anywhere near close to being one of the worst. Definitely not what X-man was trying to say when he totally dismissed Lunardi as being one of the worst- he's no where close to that.

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:48 pm**

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As always, take these with a grain of salt.

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