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Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby gtmoBlue » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:56 pm

Who's got the easiest opening conf run? Who's got the toughest?

Creighton's is pretty good. 4 winnable games, @SH - Prov - StJ - @Gtwn. We've never won @Gtwn.
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby Hall2012 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:54 pm

While it's dangerous to call anyone in this league an easy win, Seton Hall has a pretty favorable opening 5 games.

Creighton (68% KP, 66% BPI)
St. John's (78% KP, 82% BPI)
@Butler (54% KP, 55% BPI)
@Marquette (56% KP, 51% BPI)
Georgetown (90% KP, 91% BPI)

As shown above, the Hall is favored by both Kenpom and ESPN BPI game predictors in all 5 games, and pretty heavily so in the 3 home games. While they both add up to about 3.5 wins, I think anything less than 4-1 in this opening stretch would be a major disappointment. That said, the Hall has had a tendency to start slow in league play, so I wouldn't be surprised with disappointment.
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby BigmanU » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:37 pm

Georgetown's first five

Butler (puncher's chance)
@Marquette (winnable)
@DePaul (winnable)
Creighton (have their # at home, so puncher's chance)
@St. John's (winnable)

If we can get by with a 3-2 record or better, who knows? It will be tough sledding however. Couldn't have asked for a more favorable opening to BEast play in a rebuild year. That Butler game is definitely a tough opener, at least it's at home.
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby DeadHeadHoya » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:55 pm

BigmanU wrote:Georgetown's first five

Butler (puncher's chance)
@Marquette (winnable)
@DePaul (winnable)
Creighton (have their # at home, so puncher's chance)
@St. John's (winnable)

If we can get by with a 3-2 record or better, who knows? It will be tough sledding however. Couldn't have asked for a more favorable opening to BEast play in a rebuild year. That Butler game is definitely a tough opener, at least it's at home.


Im really hoping the Hoyas surprise us and put together a winning record in the Big East. They have to start out hot.
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:16 pm

Just curious how Friar fans are feeling about this:

12/28 St Johns Away
12/31 Creighton Away
01/03 Marquette Home
01/06 Xavier Home

I keep thinking the Friars are going to get healthy and get it together. That looks like a tough stretch if they're not.
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby milksteak » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:52 pm

Could make a pretty strong argument for Butler for toughest opening.

@Georgetown
vs. Villanova
@Xavier
vs. Seton Hall
@Creighton
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby ConnersvilleBulldog » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:10 am

milksteak wrote:Could make a pretty strong argument for Butler for toughest opening.

@Georgetown
vs. Villanova
@Xavier
vs. Seton Hall
@Creighton


I agree. 4 of the first 5 games are against #1, #9, #23, #25.
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby BigmanU » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:24 am

milksteak wrote:Could make a pretty strong argument for Butler for toughest opening.

@Georgetown
vs. Villanova
@Xavier
vs. Seton Hall
@Creighton


Yeah games 2-5 are a gauntlet. If they go 2-3, it would put them on solid footing & 3-2 would set up for an outstanding run.
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby X Factor » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:59 am

Xavier's first 5:

@Marquette
DePaul
Butler
@Providence
@Villanova
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Re: Easiest/Toughest opening stretch

Postby gosports1 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:41 am

Wizard of Westroads wrote:Just curious how Friar fans are feeling about this:

12/28 St Johns Away
12/31 Creighton Away
01/03 Marquette Home
01/06 Xavier Home

I keep thinking the Friars are going to get healthy and get it together. That looks like a tough stretch if they're not.



Tough for PC. If they were healthy those games are winnable but still difficult. Would it be better to have games not expected to win like Villanova or Seton Hall first, or have them later when heathier and can pull the upset?
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