XtoDC wrote:Last year if Creighton and Xavier did not have the injuries that they did the conference would not have earned 7 bids. I think everyone here gets a little too focused on the # of bids rather than the % of the conference getting bids. Just because the ACC gets 7 bids in an average year with 3 top 4 seeds doesn't mean that will be us. They have 4 more schools. It would be damn near impossible for us to do both, so a couple of the top 3 either need to collapse or they continue to play like top 15 teams and earn high seeds at the expense of getting a 7th and possibly 6th bid.
If someone on the ACC board started a thread saying "I expect the ACC to get 7 NCAA Tournament bids" there would be one post saying "No shit, real bold prediction". Here because it's stever everyone let's him get to them for some reason because he makes a claim that 50% of the conference will get in, and that is controversial because last year was a fluke with two of the top teams losing a bunch of games to the middle of the conference mainly due to injuries.
stever20 wrote:Edrick wrote:A minimum of six are going to make it, 7 more likely. 8 is FAR more likely than four.
Itll be 7 -- again.
what do you think the final conference records are going to be? You are acting like the conference RPI is the sole determinent in NCAA bids. It's not. Individual teams earn NCAA bids, not conferences. Like it or not, Marquette, Butler, St John's, and Providence have all 4 put themselves in a position where there's really no chance for them to finish at 8-10 and make the tourney. Marquette and Providence have 3 conference losses already. Butler and St John's are both projected to lose again in OOC play.
You say Vanderbilt made it last year with 17-14 regular season and 2-1 in conference tourney. True. But they played 25 RPI top 100 teams in the season and had the #2 SOS. None of the Big East teams are in that boat.
And you guys are just making my point. There are a lot of folks who think the sole measure of a conference is the number of bids. It's not. Give me a 1 and 2 2's any day of the week over 7 mediocre bids. I'd take 2018 Big East and how it's projected in Ken Pom right now over last year 100% of the time.
NJRedman wrote:stever20 wrote:Edrick wrote:A minimum of six are going to make it, 7 more likely. 8 is FAR more likely than four.
Itll be 7 -- again.
what do you think the final conference records are going to be? You are acting like the conference RPI is the sole determinent in NCAA bids. It's not. Individual teams earn NCAA bids, not conferences. Like it or not, Marquette, Butler, St John's, and Providence have all 4 put themselves in a position where there's really no chance for them to finish at 8-10 and make the tourney. Marquette and Providence have 3 conference losses already. Butler and St John's are both projected to lose again in OOC play.
You say Vanderbilt made it last year with 17-14 regular season and 2-1 in conference tourney. True. But they played 25 RPI top 100 teams in the season and had the #2 SOS. None of the Big East teams are in that boat.
And you guys are just making my point. There are a lot of folks who think the sole measure of a conference is the number of bids. It's not. Give me a 1 and 2 2's any day of the week over 7 mediocre bids. I'd take 2018 Big East and how it's projected in Ken Pom right now over last year 100% of the time.
You conveniently leave out on all of your "facts" that the Pac and B1G are having down years so it's not like our middle teams will be fighting against those conferences middle teams for bids. Ours stand head and shoulders above theirs.
St. John's put themselves in this position by losing to a top ten team on the west coast? Really?
Edrick wrote:Butler, St Johns, Marquette, and Providence are all within Pomeroy #48 through #53. The middle of the Big East are effectively equivalents
Most, if not all, will make the NCAA Tournament.
How can you possibly neglect the most important job of your life---editing Stever. You might have to quit your day job!! And no I don't want to be a mod!marquette wrote:Alright, I've been working all day so I have been neglecting my mod duties but brace yourselves, 12 Stever posts incoming.
milksteak wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/iteration/167
50% of the Big East. 30% of the Big East with a #4 seed or better. Top overall seed for Villanova.
AAC with 4/12 teams making the dance...with three of the four having a #7 or worse.
Now...any NORMAL person would say the Big East is in a better spot right now, but I'll let the #SteverSpin take affect in 3..2...1...
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