Jet915 wrote:I'm guessing Creighton will still get votes. The rest of our nonconference is at home. If we can run the table, we might be able to sneak back in by Big East play.
stever20 wrote:my rebuttal is simple-
Nova- will be #4(would have been there regardless, as if ND had upset Michigan St, they would have moved ahead of Nova I think)
Xavier- I think they'll be around 13 best case. there's a cap because a lot of teams above that won both games themselves. Duke/Kansas/Mich St/Nova, ND, Florida, Kentucky, Wichita, Texas A&M, Miami, UNC, Gonzaga. Virginia didn't lose. West Virginia and Arizona St didn't lose. So I think 15-16 is pretty realistic
Seton Hall- They'll get in probably around 20 I think???? I should note in the coaches poll they were #24 already. They'll reap the favor of the AAC upsets with UCF over Alabama and even SMU over USC.
Creighton is gone. Providence won't be ranked. St John's I think will need some serious chaos to get in the poll even with an ASU win.
billyjack wrote:stever20 wrote:my rebuttal is simple-
Nova- will be #4(would have been there regardless, as if ND had upset Michigan St, they would have moved ahead of Nova I think)
Xavier- I think they'll be around 13 best case. there's a cap because a lot of teams above that won both games themselves. Duke/Kansas/Mich St/Nova, ND, Florida, Kentucky, Wichita, Texas A&M, Miami, UNC, Gonzaga. Virginia didn't lose. West Virginia and Arizona St didn't lose. So I think 15-16 is pretty realistic
Seton Hall- They'll get in probably around 20 I think???? I should note in the coaches poll they were #24 already. They'll reap the favor of the AAC upsets with UCF over Alabama and even SMU over USC.
Creighton is gone. Providence won't be ranked. St John's I think will need some serious chaos to get in the poll even with an ASU win.
Cincinnati has won 7 games, against teams wth a combned record of 12-39. Big winners of the Cayman Islands Classic, rolling past Buffalo, Richmond and Wyoming. Such an impressive team.
Cincinnati beat Alabama State last Monday before losing in OT to Xavier. Will that be enough to keep the Bearcats in the Top 10...? Their wins over Coppin State and Western Carolina will go a long way come March.
ecasadoSBU wrote:With two top 25 wins I would be disappointed, yet not surprised, if Seton Hall is not within the Top 15. They have done enough to be a TOP 15 team in the country.
I'm sorry to sound like a broken record but I'll say it again. I noticed a pattern over the last few years (or maybe it's just me?)
(1) P5 wins against the Big East teams are often considered big wins and help P5 teams shoot up the rankings and seeding lines
However,
(2) Big East wins over Power-5 teams are usually diminished as a "that P5 team wasn't as good as we thought" which hampers the ability for Big East teams to move up.
I hate the double standard. I have no quantitative proof of it because I haven't done the actual research work. But is a feeling that I get from following these Polls closely.
Lets see where they rank Louisville on this Poll and where they place Seton Hall. I understand polls are meaningless for the most part. But for visibility and hype they mean a lot. This league needs all the hype it can get
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