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Xavier Names Their Student Section "The Holy Land"

Postby admin » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:58 pm

Shannon Russell:
Just announced: XU's student section is now named The Holy Land. Students voted for it b/c of "the pilgrimage it is to go to a hoops game."

I assume we can expect residual checks, right?
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Re: Xavier names their student section "The Holy Land"

Postby paulxu » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:00 pm

I think they should have come up with something a little stronger.
If I remember it was a student vote, and the choices were all weak.
Oh well; maybe the Popes will come back, or Crusaders, or something.
...he went up late, and I was already up there.
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Re: Xavier names their student section "The Holy Land"

Postby Schickrateez » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:17 pm

Not a fan. If you feel compelled to do something, like naming the student section, it should be something short/easy to say.
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Re: Xavier names their student section "The Holy Land"

Postby thebigeXpress » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:18 pm

I am not a fan either. I'm surprised Mack gave his approval. Yeah, bring back the Popes.
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Re: Xavier names their student section "The Holy Land"

Postby pki1998 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:56 pm

This is lame, the name has nothing specific to X. Any religious based organization could do the same thing. If they wanted to name it, they should have went with something like D'Artagnan's Den.
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Re: Xavier Names Their Student Section "The Holy Land"

Postby Coasterville95 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:00 pm

Looks like this may be a non-starter:

Per the Xavier Newswire

https://xaviernewswire.com/2017/11/01/t ... criticism/

Any merchandise bearing the Holy Land name has been pulled and the signage will not be installed. The student section will go Nameless this season.

Reason cited being Muslim and other non Catholic students feeling scared and offended. Also in the light of racial and religious tensions on campus.

I recall the rather tepid response it got at Muskie Madness. I noted at the exhibition game it was very noticeable by its absence.
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Re: Xavier Names Their Student Section "The Holy Land"

Postby thebigeXpress » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:24 pm

I'm glad this didn't stick. I love the name for this site but not so much for my school's student section. Everything being politically correct nowadays it doesn't really surprise me. Good riddance, though.
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Re: Xavier Names Their Student Section "The Holy Land"

Postby jaxalum » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:50 am

Reason cited being Muslim and other non Catholic students feeling scared and offended. Also in the light of racial and religious tensions on campus.


This is the the spineless, over the top, politically correct, bullsh$t that's spread over this once great country, and overtaken many of our universities. The First Amendment has become meaningless, inconsequential writing on a 241 year old piece of parchment. Their/the administrations reason is nonsensical as well, as the "Holy Land" is similar for Muslims and Catholics/Christians alike. And I guarantee you that 99% of the student populace could not tell you what, where, why, and speak with any real competence concerning its history, IF THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. i.e. The Crusades, Richard the Lionhearted, Salahuddin, when, how and why Israel came to be/The West bank and the Gaza Strip, Palestines role etc.

Xavier is a private Catholic, Jesuit institution. Why would you matriculate to a school knowing that some Jesuit methodologies are going to be taught/students will be exposed to their beliefs to a certain extent? I was required to take classes about other religions. One of my best friends was from India, so I took Hinduism, and found it to be fascinating, and in turn, engaged in some compelling conversations with him and his parents as well.

Unfortunately the student of today (not all of them) and academia as a whole(leftist professors/not all of them), are not interested in an exchange of differing ideas, or creating dialogue between students of differing backgrounds, and having professors expose their students to more than just their own (usually leftist) beliefs. It's all about protesting speakers who may present differing viewpoints, to the point of violence in some cases, where the invited speaker has no chance to speak/engage the students that have open minds, yet are escorted off campus by the authorities for their own protection(Ben Shapiro/Ann Coulter are just 2 examples). And then they/the protesters, go back to their "safe spaces" and sign petitions to have the First Amendment abolished. (Youtube it)

Obviously, this is a huge hot button issue for me, but this is a basketball board, so my apologies for the long political rant. I will conclude with this:

-Benjamin Franklin was in such poor health (he was 81,life expectancy was 36 back then) that he had to ride in a sedan chair, carried by four men, to make it up to the desk where the Constitution rest. He wept as he signed it.

-As Benjamin Franklin left the Pennsylvania State House after the final meeting of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787, he was approached by the wife of the mayor of Philadelphia. She was curious as to what the new government would be. Franklin replied, "A republic, madam. If you can keep it."

If we only had great men like Benjamin Franklin around......because we are well on our way to losing our Republic, if it is not lost already.
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Re: Xavier Names Their Student Section "The Holy Land"

Postby XtoDC » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:37 pm

jaxalum wrote:
Reason cited being Muslim and other non Catholic students feeling scared and offended. Also in the light of racial and religious tensions on campus.


This is the the spineless, over the top, politically correct, bullsh$t that's spread over this once great country, and overtaken many of our universities. The First Amendment has become meaningless, inconsequential writing on a 241 year old piece of parchment. Their/the administrations reason is nonsensical as well, as the "Holy Land" is similar for Muslims and Catholics/Christians alike. And I guarantee you that 99% of the student populace could not tell you what, where, why, and speak with any real competence concerning its history, IF THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. i.e. The Crusades, Richard the Lionhearted, Salahuddin, when, how and why Israel came to be/The West bank and the Gaza Strip, Palestines role etc.

Xavier is a private Catholic, Jesuit institution. Why would you matriculate to a school knowing that some Jesuit methodologies are going to be taught/students will be exposed to their beliefs to a certain extent? I was required to take classes about other religions. One of my best friends was from India, so I took Hinduism, and found it to be fascinating, and in turn, engaged in some compelling conversations with him and his parents as well.

Unfortunately the student of today (not all of them) and academia as a whole(leftist professors/not all of them), are not interested in an exchange of differing ideas, or creating dialogue between students of differing backgrounds, and having professors expose their students to more than just their own (usually leftist) beliefs. It's all about protesting speakers who may present differing viewpoints, to the point of violence in some cases, where the invited speaker has no chance to speak/engage the students that have open minds, yet are escorted off campus by the authorities for their own protection(Ben Shapiro/Ann Coulter are just 2 examples). And then they/the protesters, go back to their "safe spaces" and sign petitions to have the First Amendment abolished. (Youtube it)

Obviously, this is a huge hot button issue for me, but this is a basketball board, so my apologies for the long political rant. I will conclude with this:

-Benjamin Franklin was in such poor health (he was 81,life expectancy was 36 back then) that he had to ride in a sedan chair, carried by four men, to make it up to the desk where the Constitution rest. He wept as he signed it.

-As Benjamin Franklin left the Pennsylvania State House after the final meeting of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787, he was approached by the wife of the mayor of Philadelphia. She was curious as to what the new government would be. Franklin replied, "A republic, madam. If you can keep it."

If we only had great men like Benjamin Franklin around......because we are well on our way to losing our Republic, if it is not lost already.

Wow, pretty hot take over an uncreative name for a student section. You realize you are complaining about protesters in your defense of the first amendment, even though that is literally a part of the first amendment. You are adding to your own argument about people not appreciating the first amendment.
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Re: Xavier Names Their Student Section "The Holy Land"

Postby NJRedman » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:05 pm

jaxalum wrote:
Reason cited being Muslim and other non Catholic students feeling scared and offended. Also in the light of racial and religious tensions on campus.


This is the the spineless, over the top, politically correct, bullsh$t that's spread over this once great country, and overtaken many of our universities. The First Amendment has become meaningless, inconsequential writing on a 241 year old piece of parchment. Their/the administrations reason is nonsensical as well, as the "Holy Land" is similar for Muslims and Catholics/Christians alike. And I guarantee you that 99% of the student populace could not tell you what, where, why, and speak with any real competence concerning its history, IF THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. i.e. The Crusades, Richard the Lionhearted, Salahuddin, when, how and why Israel came to be/The West bank and the Gaza Strip, Palestines role etc.

Xavier is a private Catholic, Jesuit institution. Why would you matriculate to a school knowing that some Jesuit methodologies are going to be taught/students will be exposed to their beliefs to a certain extent? I was required to take classes about other religions. One of my best friends was from India, so I took Hinduism, and found it to be fascinating, and in turn, engaged in some compelling conversations with him and his parents as well.

Unfortunately the student of today (not all of them) and academia as a whole(leftist professors/not all of them), are not interested in an exchange of differing ideas, or creating dialogue between students of differing backgrounds, and having professors expose their students to more than just their own (usually leftist) beliefs. It's all about protesting speakers who may present differing viewpoints, to the point of violence in some cases, where the invited speaker has no chance to speak/engage the students that have open minds, yet are escorted off campus by the authorities for their own protection(Ben Shapiro/Ann Coulter are just 2 examples). And then they/the protesters, go back to their "safe spaces" and sign petitions to have the First Amendment abolished. (Youtube it)

Obviously, this is a huge hot button issue for me, but this is a basketball board, so my apologies for the long political rant. I will conclude with this:

-Benjamin Franklin was in such poor health (he was 81,life expectancy was 36 back then) that he had to ride in a sedan chair, carried by four men, to make it up to the desk where the Constitution rest. He wept as he signed it.

-As Benjamin Franklin left the Pennsylvania State House after the final meeting of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787, he was approached by the wife of the mayor of Philadelphia. She was curious as to what the new government would be. Franklin replied, "A republic, madam. If you can keep it."

If we only had great men like Benjamin Franklin around......because we are well on our way to losing our Republic, if it is not lost already.


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