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UNC... No Penalty... What Now Going Forward...?

Postby billyjack » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:46 am

So, UNC unsurprisingly got no penalty for 20+ years of bogus classes, cheating, etc, which included 3 or 4 National Championships (4 if you assume 2017 wouldn't have happened due to deserved penalties which would have set them back 5-6-7+ years).

So what happens going forward?

I would imagine that every school without a conscience will use the UNC formula... just add regular students into your non-existent classes. APR ratings are now bullsh--. Why should any school report themselves?

Can schools boycott and not schedule UNC...? This is unlikely due to too many schools genuflecting to the Cheatin Tarheels.

What can be done about this situation to UNC, instead of just watching this bullsh-- happen? Though i realize that nothing will happen to them, try not to dismiss possible solutions and try to brainstorm here.
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Postby ArmyVet » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:14 pm

Sad to see intercollegiate athletics come to this.
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Postby sciencejay » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:18 pm

Seems like this could have been posted under the "Is Cheating Worth It" thread. Unfortunately (and unsurprisingly as you mentioned), the answer appears to be a big old sloppy kiss of a "YES" as long as the infractions would be 'investigated' by the NCAA and not the FBI. It is unclear to me how clear malfeasance involving athletes is not punishable because "non-athlete students cheated the same way". I guess that according to the NCAA, unethical activity is only a problem if it ONLY involves athletes. That seems to be the conclusion here. Can't you just see the faces and hear the laughter of the UNC lawyers who most likely wrote this 'finding' for the NCAA? They'll have this story to tell their kids and grand kids for years to come.

I know many have said this too many times to count, but the NCAA is completely a farce. It is an organization that serves to enrich universities at the expense of the athletes on whose backs they generate that revenue. Complete BS.
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Re: UNC... No Penalty... What Now Going Forward...?

Postby admin » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:18 am

Great article by Dan Wetzel:
North Carolina embarrassed the NCAA (and itself) in academic fraud case

On Friday, Carolina was found not guilty, skating without penalty after the Tar Heels went full Tarkanian and constructed an argument that wasn’t technically against NCAA rules because no one ever imagined any school would ever dare employ it.

In perhaps the most outlandish defense in NCAA infractions history, the school acknowledged that the classes that were taken were essentially bankrupt of any kind of teaching, learning or supervision … but that was perfectly OK with them.

To defend the basketball team, the university had to claim it wasn’t really a university
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“With respect to paper courses, there is little dispute,” the NCAA report on the case states. “The classes did not meet. They rarely, if at all, directly involved a faculty member. They required the submission of a paper, occasionally two shorter papers. The papers were often graded by the secretary, who admitted she did not read every word and occasionally did not read every page. The papers consistently received high grades. At the hearing, UNC stood by its paper courses. UNC indicated that the work was assigned, completed, turned in and graded under the professor’s guidelines. UNC also asserted that the grades are recorded on the students’ transcripts and continue to count.”

That isn’t a college class. That might not even count at the El Paso de Robles Youth Correctional Facility. Yet the University* of North Carolina is completely cool with that and continues to consider it worthy of full academic credit for not just basketball players, but all the other students who took it over nearly two decades.


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Re: UNC... No Penalty... What Now Going Forward...?

Postby DeltaV » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:07 pm

In other news, the NCAA has reported that Bill Clinton didn't have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.
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