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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby kayako » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:01 pm

CrawfishBucket wrote:It will be interesting to see who gets more bids this time.


I want to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this can't be a Georgetown fan.
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby Hall2012 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:12 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:CBS Conference RPI Rankings:
1. SEC (?? It's early...and I believe they recently hired someone to advice scheduling for the purpose of manipulating RPI)
2. Big East
3. Big XII
4. PAC 12
5. B1G
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15. Northeast Conference
16. Atlantic 10
17. American Athletic Conference


To be fair, RPI means absolutely nothing after 3 games. Afterall, Temple is #3 RPI now, and Nova is #99. Wait until after the OOC and you'll have a better picture.


I'm well aware lol, and they certainly won't stay that low, but I still found the current ranking too funny not to post. Though even with the early season craziness, the real power conferences have managed to push their way towards the top.
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:13 pm

Xudash wrote:
BTW, the A-10 is an absolute dumpster fire.


Yeah, the A-10 is off to a brutal start. They're 26-18 so far. Only Davidson is undefeated(and they're projected to go 5-4 rest of OOC). Rhode Island projected to lose 4 of their next 5 games. St Bonnie's only 6-3 rest of OOC. St Joe's 4-5 rest of the way.

Very possible the A10 may only get 1 or 2 teams this year if this continues.
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby Hall2012 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:14 pm

stever20 wrote:far more important
OOC winning percentages- So when teams play each other in conference play- this is what's added to the 50% pot each and every game.
1 Big 12 .9062
2 Pac 12 .8810
3 Big Ten .8654
4 SEC .8605
5 Big East .8438
6 ACC .8077
7 AAC .7750
8 MVC .7188
9 MWC .6562
10 MAC .6452
11 WCC .5926
12 A10 .5909

The actual RPI right now flips around so much it's not funny. I mean right now, Ole Miss is #1 in RPI. They've played 3 games and are 3-0. They beat Louisiana, Eastern Kentucky, and Georgia State. That should tell you all you need to know about the actual RPI right now.


If winning % is far more important, then we need to dump the Gavitt Games for a Big East - MEAC challenge pronto.
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:27 pm

Hall2012 wrote:
stever20 wrote:far more important
OOC winning percentages- So when teams play each other in conference play- this is what's added to the 50% pot each and every game.
1 Big 12 .9062
2 Pac 12 .8810
3 Big Ten .8654
4 SEC .8605
5 Big East .8438
6 ACC .8077
7 AAC .7750
8 MVC .7188
9 MWC .6562
10 MAC .6452
11 WCC .5926
12 A10 .5909

The actual RPI right now flips around so much it's not funny. I mean right now, Ole Miss is #1 in RPI. They've played 3 games and are 3-0. They beat Louisiana, Eastern Kentucky, and Georgia State. That should tell you all you need to know about the actual RPI right now.


If winning % is far more important, then we need to dump the Gavitt Games for a Big East - MEAC challenge pronto.

the winning % is more important than the RPI right now.

SOS is great if you actually win. But like we're seeing with the A10, if you lose a lot of the games, you're going to struggle. I mean- A10 right now in RPI forecast(I know still early) projected to have the #3 OOC SOS, but RPI is #10.
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby ArmyVet » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:08 pm

Hall2012 wrote:
stever20 wrote:far more important
OOC winning percentages- So when teams play each other in conference play- this is what's added to the 50% pot each and every game.
1 Big 12 .9062
2 Pac 12 .8810
3 Big Ten .8654
4 SEC .8605
5 Big East .8438
6 ACC .8077
7 AAC .7750
8 MVC .7188
9 MWC .6562
10 MAC .6452
11 WCC .5926
12 A10 .5909

The actual RPI right now flips around so much it's not funny. I mean right now, Ole Miss is #1 in RPI. They've played 3 games and are 3-0. They beat Louisiana, Eastern Kentucky, and Georgia State. That should tell you all you need to know about the actual RPI right now.


If winning % is far more important, then we need to dump the Gavitt Games for a Big East - MEAC challenge pronto.


This post actually made me laugh out loud. Maybe it's my age or lack of time or willingness to spend countless hours on message board posting items that I spent endless hours researching. but I do not understand why someone would want to spend time living in a constant contradictory state of mind.
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby ivet » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:38 pm

Hall2012 wrote:
stever20 wrote:far more important
OOC winning percentages- So when teams play each other in conference play- this is what's added to the 50% pot each and every game.
1 Big 12 .9062
2 Pac 12 .8810
3 Big Ten .8654
4 SEC .8605
5 Big East .8438
6 ACC .8077
7 AAC .7750
8 MVC .7188
9 MWC .6562
10 MAC .6452
11 WCC .5926
12 A10 .5909

The actual RPI right now flips around so much it's not funny. I mean right now, Ole Miss is #1 in RPI. They've played 3 games and are 3-0. They beat Louisiana, Eastern Kentucky, and Georgia State. That should tell you all you need to know about the actual RPI right now.


If winning % is far more important, then we need to dump the Gavitt Games for a Big East - MEAC challenge pronto.


:lol: Right on but come on this is Stever, he's going to change the narrative accordingly to downplay the Big East.
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:23 pm

give you how early it is for the RPI...

right now to the minute-
the WAC is #4 in RPI, ahead of Big Ten and the ACC.

Also, the AAC w/o playing today is up to 14.
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby FriarJ » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:47 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:
stever20 wrote:
Bottom line, AAC and Big East doing well IMO like I've said is great for college basketball. I don't want to just have the P5.



I mostly agree with this sentiment from a macro level. It is probably better, on a whole, to limit the power and influence (in college hoops) of the P5 conferences. If those 5 leagues at any point start to completely dominate the college hoops landscape, it gives them all the more reason to take their ball and just play among themselves.

On the micro level though, I want X to be the premier program in OH; for Creighton to be one of the only two powers (along with Kansas) in the Great Plains; for PC to own the NE region; for VU to never battle Temple for recruits or the Philly limelight; etc. Bottom line these individual programs are rivals and you never root for rivals to be successful if it could hurt your own program in some way.

So far it is very safe to say that the BE schools (other than maybe G'town) mostly have benefited from realignment and the AAC schools mostly have not. After Calhoun's BE players all graduated, UConn has been a shell of it's former self; Memphis is down; USF is almost non-existent; Temple is down; Cincy may be the same but their March success has been unremarkable at best. SMU has been decent but you wonder about long term after losing a HOF coach.

On the flip side, PC, SHU, even SJU have experienced resurgences; Nova has taken off and become a national power; recruiting at Creighton and X have soared; bids are up, etc. In short, we are thriving. The AAC is hoping that WSU can elevate the league back up to respectability. They really needed to do something so I applaud them being aggressive. I guess we'll all see...


The fact that the AAC needs Wichita State to elevate their league into the realm of respectability says all you need to know.

ESPN chimes in on the BE. Let's see how Steveo and Crayfish attack this take.http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21470858/power-rankings-big-east-best-conference-country
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Re: The AAAAAAAC and Advanced Marketing (or Self-Kidding)

Postby FriarJ » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:51 pm

stever20 wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
stever20 wrote:far more important
OOC winning percentages- So when teams play each other in conference play- this is what's added to the 50% pot each and every game.
1 Big 12 .9062
2 Pac 12 .8810
3 Big Ten .8654
4 SEC .8605
5 Big East .8438
6 ACC .8077
7 AAC .7750
8 MVC .7188
9 MWC .6562
10 MAC .6452
11 WCC .5926
12 A10 .5909

The actual RPI right now flips around so much it's not funny. I mean right now, Ole Miss is #1 in RPI. They've played 3 games and are 3-0. They beat Louisiana, Eastern Kentucky, and Georgia State. That should tell you all you need to know about the actual RPI right now.


If winning % is far more important, then we need to dump the Gavitt Games for a Big East - MEAC challenge pronto.

the winning % is more important than the RPI right now.

SOS is great if you actually win. But like we're seeing with the A10, if you lose a lot of the games, you're going to struggle. I mean- A10 right now in RPI forecast(I know still early) projected to have the #3 OOC SOS, but RPI is #10.


I know that winning percentage sure has helped the AAC with seeding. It's sad watching you struggle for any lifeline after literally every single prediction you have made for the last 5 years has been wrong. That's Cleveland Browns level futility there. Blindfolded dart throwers would have better predictions than you.
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