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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby Bill Marsh » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:00 am

micgoG'town wrote:Dan Hurly is the buzz this morning.


Bart Simpson's kid brother. :lol:
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Postby NJRedman » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:45 am

Bill Marsh wrote:
micgoG'town wrote:Dan Hurly is the buzz this morning.


Bart Simpson's kid brother. :lol:


That kid brother took Seton Hall to the brink of a National Championship and is the son of one of the greatest HS Basketball coaches ever. SETON HALL!!!
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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby billyjack » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:17 am

NJRedman wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
micgoG'town wrote:Dan Hurly is the buzz this morning.


Bart Simpson's kid brother. :lol:


That kid brother took Seton Hall to the brink of a National Championship and is the son of one of the greatest HS Basketball coaches ever. SETON HALL!!!


Not sure Danny was at the Hall yet.
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Having said all that, i think Dan Hurley would be a weird fit at Georgetown, but i do think he'd win. He'd give the Hoyas some much-needed energy and they'd play some aggressive defense.

I think Shaka, Brey, Hurley or Crean would win at GU. Amaker, no. Ewing, i have no idea.
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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby SJHooper » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:57 am

Seems like Ewing was the early favorite, but cooled off recently. Any idea why? Also have no idea how Shaka could be a candidate, he just started at Texas with all those facilities and all that money. Why would Texas let him leave? I think Dan Hurley would do well, but I feel like they can get a more high profile coach like Billy Donavan or even Richard Pitino. Pitino has turned Minnesota into a factor. It's so odd seeing G'Town not compete the last handful of years or so. Growing up, they were right there with the very elite. There's always that question of "Is it just getting good recruits or is it a good coach or both?". The answer is definitely both. Time and time again we see coaches fail with loaded rosters and other coaches succeed with mediocre rosters. G'Town needs a hungry guy to bring the talent in and really understand how to develop players and get them to buy in.
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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby CrawfishBucket » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:58 am

billyjack wrote:Ed Cooley has no interest in leaving Providence. Article by Kevin McNamara:

http://www.providencejournal.com/sports ... providence


COACHSPEAK 101:

Not trying to argue but that's the exact article with the I quote in the post above yours.

"The flurry of college job openings is easing, but that won't change much for Cooley. It sounds like he'd be surprised if the calls stop.
"It's really flattering that people want you," he says, "but it has to be the right fit. You never say never because you don't know what can happen in life and you never exclude opportunity that can enhance your family's life, but I'm not looking. I fit here at Providence College."

If you understand coachspeak, then that quote doesn't sound as firm as "no interest in leaving Providence."

He said "I'm not looking. I fit here at Providence College." Big difference.. especially when Cooley had just finished saying, "It has to be the right fit."

If that isn't a red flag to you, then the fact that there even needed to be a long article about Cooley possibly leaving should signify that there is some smoke, if nothing else.

I don't know if Cooley is the right guy for the job at Georgetown. However, he definitely looks the part a lot more than someone like Dan Hurley. Georgetown has had an African-American coach for so long, it just feels part in parcel with the job and the city itself.

If by chance Cooley gets the job, I hope that article isn't blown out of proportion. The writer took a few liberties in framing those quotes. That's not Cooley's fault.
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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby Bill Marsh » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:10 am

CrawfishBucket wrote:
billyjack wrote:Ed Cooley has no interest in leaving Providence. Article by Kevin McNamara:

http://www.providencejournal.com/sports ... providence


COACHSPEAK 101:

Not trying to argue but that's the exact article with the I quote in the post above yours.

"The flurry of college job openings is easing, but that won't change much for Cooley. It sounds like he'd be surprised if the calls stop.
"It's really flattering that people want you," he says, "but it has to be the right fit. You never say never because you don't know what can happen in life and you never exclude opportunity that can enhance your family's life, but I'm not looking. I fit here at Providence College."

If you understand coachspeak, then that quote doesn't sound as firm as "no interest in leaving Providence."

He said "I'm not looking. I fit here at Providence College." Big difference.. especially when Cooley had just finished saying, "It has to be the right fit."

If that isn't a red flag to you, then the fact that there even needed to be a long article about Cooley possibly leaving should signify that there is some smoke, if nothing else.

I don't know if Cooley is the right guy for the job at Georgetown. However, he definitely looks the part a lot more than someone like Dan Hurley. Georgetown has had an African-American coach for so long, it just feels part in parcel with the job and the city itself.

If by chance Cooley gets the job, I hope that article isn't blown out of proportion. The writer took a few liberties in framing those quotes. That's not Cooley's fault.


Craig Esherick is one of my favorite African coaches.
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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby CrawfishBucket » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:19 am

Bill Marsh wrote:
CrawfishBucket wrote:
billyjack wrote:Ed Cooley has no interest in leaving Providence. Article by Kevin McNamara:

http://www.providencejournal.com/sports ... providence


COACHSPEAK 101:

Not trying to argue but that's the exact article with the I quote in the post above yours.

"The flurry of college job openings is easing, but that won't change much for Cooley. It sounds like he'd be surprised if the calls stop.
"It's really flattering that people want you," he says, "but it has to be the right fit. You never say never because you don't know what can happen in life and you never exclude opportunity that can enhance your family's life, but I'm not looking. I fit here at Providence College."

If you understand coachspeak, then that quote doesn't sound as firm as "no interest in leaving Providence."

He said "I'm not looking. I fit here at Providence College." Big difference.. especially when Cooley had just finished saying, "It has to be the right fit."

If that isn't a red flag to you, then the fact that there even needed to be a long article about Cooley possibly leaving should signify that there is some smoke, if nothing else.

I don't know if Cooley is the right guy for the job at Georgetown. However, he definitely looks the part a lot more than someone like Dan Hurley. Georgetown has had an African-American coach for so long, it just feels part in parcel with the job and the city itself.

If by chance Cooley gets the job, I hope that article isn't blown out of proportion. The writer took a few liberties in framing those quotes. That's not Cooley's fault.


Craig Esherick is one of my favorite African coaches.


He's not really associated with the Georgetown that captured the mindset and mentality of hip hop in the 80s.

The Georgetown brand is still an urban mark to a lot of people. That was embodied by Thompson and his tough exterior. Esherick was a mistake.

That being said, someone like Frank Martin could fit the role of that larger than life figure. He's not African-American. I do feel like this position needs to have that mindset because this is DC's team.
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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby itsmejpt » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:41 am

NJRedman wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
micgoG'town wrote:Dan Hurly is the buzz this morning.


Bart Simpson's kid brother. :lol:


That kid brother took Seton Hall to the brink of a National Championship and is the son of one of the greatest HS Basketball coaches ever. SETON HALL!!!


Danny didn't get to the Hall until '91. He only took them to the Elite 8.
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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby EMT » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:45 am

CrawfishBucket wrote:He's not really associated with the Georgetown that captured the mindset and mentality of hip hop in the 80s.

The Georgetown brand is still an urban mark to a lot of people. That was embodied by Thompson and his tough exterior. Esherick was a mistake.

That being said, someone like Frank Martin could fit the role of that larger than life figure. He's not African-American. I do feel like this position needs to have that mindset because this is DC's team.


So....if Craig was successful as JT Jr's hand picked replacement, he still wouldn't be there?

Frank Martin is a Cuban American so I think he can relate to the urban player.
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Re: JT3 fired by Georgetown

Postby RedStorm » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:41 am

CrawfishBucket wrote:
He's not really associated with the Georgetown that captured the mindset and mentality of hip hop in the 80s.

The Georgetown brand is still an urban mark to a lot of people. That was embodied by Thompson and his tough exterior. Esherick was a mistake.

That being said, someone like Frank Martin could fit the role of that larger than life figure. He's not African-American. I do feel like this position needs to have that mindset because this is DC's team.



I think your view of Georgetown is off. "Hip hop" and "urban" are the last things I think of when viewing JT jr and JT3. Have heard people toss around the race thing with regards to that job and frankly it makes no sense. Really think the real issue for Hoyas at this point is the availability of really good coaches is shrinking. Indiana got Archie, Brey is unlikely (although he would be perfect), Shaka Smart seems a longshot, Frank Martin is a pipe dream at this point. For some reason which I haven't seen explained, Gregg Marshall seems not to be a consideration. Is it his crazy wife? He is the best pure coach left available.

Looking more and more like G-town will have to settle for someone like Hurley or some other midmajor who comes with big question marks. Or someone like Crean. Or maybe a gamble like Ewing.
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