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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:39 pm

We have had 22 NCAA Tournament bids in four seasons. We have had three different Big East Tournament champions in four seasons. We have sold out the Garden the past two seasons, and had strong attendance there the previous two. We have had every single program make the NCAA Tournament except one (nine out of ten). We have had a national champion.

The Big East is absolutely fine and is still one of the top five basketball conferences in the country. Villanova losing was disheartening, but they had a great season and are the class of the league. Xavier, Butler and Creighton have developed into the backbone of the conference; they are dependable, strong and very much needed to ensure the conference remains among the elite. Marquette and Georgetown have been inconsistent since the reorganization, but are trending upwards. Seton Hall and Providence have absolutely benefited from the reorganization, and their programs have been elevated since the conference became smaller at 10 programs. St. Johns is rebuilding, but they have been recruiting very well under Mullin. DePaul is, well DePaul.

I'm rooting hard for Butler and Xavier because they are excellent basketball programs and represent our conference well. Advocating for the Big East to add new schools because Villanova lost is a slap in the face to Villanova and, especially, Butler and Xavier. We still have two strong programs able to make deep runs in the tournament. Believing that adding a school that doesn't fit the profile of the league (VCU) will make everything better is just shortsighted and emotional.

I truly believe that Dayton and Saint Louis will be added to the Big East sometime down the road - but that point isn't today, nor will it be this year. Let's just try and support our two great programs still playing this week. Go Xavier! Go Butler! Go BIG EAST!
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Postby SJU1987 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:48 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:We have had 22 NCAA Tournament bids in four seasons. We have had three different Big East Tournament champions in four seasons. We have sold out the Garden the past two seasons, and had strong attendance there the previous two. We have had every single program make the NCAA Tournament except one (nine out of ten). We have had a national champion.

The Big East is absolutely fine and is still one of the top five basketball conferences in the country. Villanova losing was disheartening, but they had a great season and are the class of the league. Xavier, Butler and Creighton have developed into the backbone of the conference; they are dependable, strong and very much needed to ensure the conference remains among the elite. Marquette and Georgetown have been inconsistent since the reorganization, but are trending upwards. Seton Hall and Providence have absolutely benefited from the reorganization, and their programs have been elevated since the conference became smaller at 10 programs. St. Johns is rebuilding, but they have been recruiting very well under Mullin. DePaul is, well DePaul.

I'm rooting hard for Butler and Xavier because they are excellent basketball programs and represent our conference well. Advocating for the Big East to add new schools because Villanova lost is a slap in the face to Villanova and, especially, Butler and Xavier. We still have two strong programs able to make deep runs in the tournament. Believing that adding a school that doesn't fit the profile of the league (VCU) will make everything better is just shortsighted and emotional.

I truly believe that Dayton and Saint Louis will be added to the Big East sometime down the road - but that point isn't today, nor will it be this year. Let's just try and support our two great programs still playing this week. Go Xavier! Go Butler! Go BIG EAST!


We should only add teams that are strong now. Why take a Chance with St. Louis and risk having another DePaul ? Dayton is ok. Witchita state would also be a nice addition as would UCONN and strongly consider adding Gonzaga .Totally forget about Davidson !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby DudeAnon » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:52 pm

kayako wrote:
NJRedman wrote:
DeltaV wrote:Expansion I would think would work... The 13 team conference I've heard mentioned. 6 home and away, 6 once. 3 permanent rivals, other three rotate.

Add Dayton (because we all need that annoying little brother), St Louis (so DePaul isn't the bottom team anymore), and Davidson (because f--- the ACC). Keep it private.


I'd go with a different 3. VCU, Dayton and SLU.


I've gone on record saying adding a great mid-major program wouldn't dilute the Big East "Brand" at all, but adding 3 simultaneously may do just that. We had no choice but to add 3 with X, Creighton, and Butler, but there's no reason to do so at the moment.


At least add WSU before they joint he American.
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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby ecasadoSBU » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:53 pm

Damn... Can people really stop the expansion talks... leave these for the long days of summer when everyone is bored... But seriously, right in the middle of the NCAAs?
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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby DudeAnon » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:10 pm

ecasadoSBU wrote:Damn... Can people really stop the expansion talks... leave these for the long days of summer when everyone is bored... But seriously, right in the middle of the NCAAs?


Its not like its an unrelated topic. The conference performance in March is necessitating this.
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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby kayako » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:14 pm

DudeAnon wrote:At least add WSU before they joint he American.


Not sure why WSU takes the priority over VCU, which has the added benefits of being a system school and bringing big crowds to the MSG.
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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby FenwayFriar » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:53 pm

DudeAnon wrote:
ecasadoSBU wrote:Damn... Can people really stop the expansion talks... leave these for the long days of summer when everyone is bored... But seriously, right in the middle of the NCAAs?


Its not like its an unrelated topic. The conference performance in March is necessitating this.


Are you high? You realize we had the national champion last year, correct? And this year we will have the same amount in the S16 as the mighty ACC. Oh, and what other conference had 70% make the Tourney this year? What are you talking about that the league's performance in March is necessitating this? Expansion isn't judged on a year to year basis based on March performance. That's ridiculous. It's about dollars and cents. Period. Just stop. If a team made monetary sense to the league they would have been added already. Completely agree with SBU. Let's have this conversation in July and not get stuck on what's happening in the moment. Because I know the BE administration aren't.
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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby ecasadoSBU » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:05 pm

DudeAnon wrote:
ecasadoSBU wrote:Damn... Can people really stop the expansion talks... leave these for the long days of summer when everyone is bored... But seriously, right in the middle of the NCAAs?


Its not like its an unrelated topic. The conference performance in March is necessitating this.


What you talking about? Nova won the Nat Championship last year... and now we have Xavier and Butler in the Sweet 16. What else do you want?
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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby Omaha1 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:09 pm

kayako wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:At least add WSU before they joint he American.


Not sure why WSU takes the priority over VCU, which has the added benefits of being a system school and bringing big crowds to the MSG.

Sounds like VCU coach might be heading to LSU.
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Re: Add Dayton and VCU

Postby Gopher+RamFan » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:25 pm

Omaha1 wrote:
kayako wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:At least add WSU before they joint he American.


Not sure why WSU takes the priority over VCU, which has the added benefits of being a system school and bringing big crowds to the MSG.

Sounds like VCU coach might be heading to LSU.


LSU President and AD flew to Richmond today and back without Will Wade. Now theyre reaching out to Tom Crean.

Will Wade has a Top 20 class coming to VCU this summer.
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