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Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:19 pm**

DudeAnon wrote:Damn. That is 2 choke jobs by the Big East so far.

Dude, kind of a dick post to put up right now. What's your definition of choke? Lose a close game? Lose a lead cuz the team is exhausted? Lose a lead cuz the refs blow?

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:20 pm**

stever20 wrote:If those refs don't make that call, they don't ref another game in the rest of the tourney. It's that simple.

No way. For making that call, they shouldn't ref another game in the rest of the tourney. They got duped by the Arkansas player's dive, even after seeing it on replay. That's inexcusable. As far as no play on the ball, there's almost never a play on the ball in those situations. I guess the Northwestern-Vanderbilt refs won't be allowed to ref again in the tournament, right? Because they called a common foul instead of a flagrant 1 at the end when there was clearly no play on the ball...

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:20 pm**

Refs need to know time and score. Tripped on a shoe. Terrible call.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:22 pm**

The trip/dive had absolutely nothing to do with it. The head of the officials said that even if he hadn't fallen, it should have been called a F1.

And like I said- if they don't call it, you don't see them reffing any games going forward. You might not like the rules, but if the refs don't call it by those rules, they won't ref any longer.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:23 pm**

billyjack wrote:I was able to catch the last 4 minutes.

Not sure how the first 36 minutes of the game was called... did they whistle touch fouls?, or just let them play...? not sure. But what I saw, they allowed Barford (?) to repeatedly reach in around the back of the Seton Hall ball-handlers... twice the ball came free, hard to believe there was no contact especially since he had his hand on the dribblers' backs... anyway, one resulted in a steal and a layup (Hall had a 1 point lead) and another just went out of bounds...

...they also allowed a lot of contact on Carrington's and Jones's (maybe) missed layups with like a minute left. Also, on Kingsley's last minute layup, it looked like Delgado (with 4 fouls) was terrified of breathing on the guy...

On the flagrant, easily the worst call I've seen all year, especially looking at the circumstances. The play went from a 1-and-1 situation I think, to a 2-shot foul plus the ball.

Joke.

Figures that Stever20 would defend the dimwit refs.

Basically, they were loose on the guards but called the big guys tight. Slaps and reach ins were allowed to go all day, they just looked the other way on contact. The bigs weren't allowed to do much of anything. Holding your ground with your arms straight up was a foul pretty much every time.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:26 pm**

get Duval and bring everyone back. they will be a top 5 team.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:30 pm**

billyjack wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:Damn. That is 2 choke jobs by the Big East so far.

Dude, kind of a dick post to put up right now. What's your definition of choke? Lose a close game? Lose a lead cuz the team is exhausted? Lose a lead cuz the refs blow?

My bad. Just frustrating to see both PC and Seton Hall play so well only to lose it in the final minutes.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:32 pm**

stever20 wrote:If those refs don't make that call, they don't ref another game in the rest of the tourney. It's that simple.

If anybody is going to defend the refs...

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:33 pm**

BEhomer wrote:get Duval and bring everyone back. they will be a top 5 team.

That would be a dream come true for the Big East!

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:34 pm**

BEhomer wrote:get Duval and bring everyone back. they will be a top 5 team.

Not gonna fix their FT shooting. Seton Hall needs shooters.

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