The Big East should merge with 6 of the best AAC teams

[TrueBlueJay]

Dumbest thread ever on HLOH

[kmacker69]

Just no! Would destroy the entire feel of the conference and we'd just be another Power conference chasing money, with no institutional integrity... We've got something special right now and I don't want to chase money and wins at the expense of what has been built!

[gmoser1210]

The Big East should add a bunch of football schools? What could go wrong?

[kayako]

LOL just let this thread die.

[herodotus]

Everyone has a chance to compete in this league, because the schools are similar. A league with those teams added would be a monster, but do you really want to be in a league like that? PC and SH got buried when the BE added traditional powers Marquette, Louisville, and Cincy, as those schools, which were already good, benefited from the increased exposure to become even more powerful. With those schools, and the traditional BE powers having a stranglehold on the top of the league, there was no room for the other schools to rise above the middle of the standings. I could easily see Memphis, and Houston using the increased exposure to start dominating recruiting in their talent rich hometowns, and becoming monsters again. This is going to be bad for schools like Seton Hall. Someone has to eat those losses, and in a 16 team league, there will be a lot of losses to be eaten. You would only consider a move like that if the current BE went into a strong downward trend, and there was fear that it was slipping towards mid major status. Since that's not on the horizon, you don't need to make that move.

[FriarsForever]

Dumbest thread ever on HLOH

2nd dumbest...right behind the preseason thread that picked Providence 10th.

[EMT]

Everyone has a chance to compete in this league, because the schools are similar. A league with those teams added would be a monster, but do you really want to be in a league like that? PC and SH got buried when the BE added traditional powers Marquette, Louisville, and Cincy, as those schools, which were already good, benefited from the increased exposure to become even more powerful. With those schools, and the traditional BE powers having a stranglehold on the top of the league, there was no room for the other schools to rise above the middle of the standings. I could easily see Memphis, and Houston using the increased exposure to start dominating recruiting in their talent rich hometowns, and becoming monsters again. This is going to be bad for schools like Seton Hall. Someone has to eat those losses, and in a 16 team league, there will be a lot of losses to be eaten. You would only consider a move like that if the current BE went into a strong downward trend, and there was fear that it was slipping towards mid major status. Since that's not on the horizon, you don't need to make that move.

As a 35 yr follower of the BE, I never want to see a 16 team league again. It has nothing to do with PC & SHU getting buried. It is the uneven scheduling. To be a true conference, you need to play every team home and away.

[billyjack]

Crazy thread, probably done as a joke?

Anyway, just want to clear up a general misconception about Cincinnati supposedly being a powerhouse in the Big East...

These were the Bearcats' finishes in all 8 of their Big East seasons:
8th, 16th, 10th, 9th, 11th, 6th, 4th, and 9th.

They averaged finishing 9th in the Big East. In 2007 they sucked wiener at 2-16. In 2009 they lost the 9-vs-16 game against 0-18 DePaul. They also had a reputation every year of playing a wimpy, soft, milquetoast non-conference schedule.

So, Cincinnati was a solid mid-to-low-range team in the BE. But holy shit, they've taken on this lore of being a juggernaut by repeating over and over how freakin great they were.

Basically, they had great years in C-USA beating the shit out of whatever dregs were there... UAB or Southern Mississippi or Tulane or East Carolina... then became a 9th place team in the Big East... then returned to playing freakin Tulane and ECU again so they're having great years again. Great bookends around their Big East seasons.

In summary for Cincinnati:
thru 2005: beat up on Tulane and ECU.
2006 thru 2013: 9th place in the Big East.
2014 to present: beat up on Tulane and ECU.

[JohnW22]

Crazy thread, probably done as a joke?

Anyway, just want to clear up a general misconception about Cincinnati supposedly being a powerhouse in the Big East...

These were the Bearcats' finishes in all 8 of their Big East seasons:
8th, 16th, 10th, 9th, 11th, 6th, 4th, and 9th.

They averaged finishing 9th in the Big East. In 2007 they sucked wiener at 2-16. In 2009 they lost the 9-vs-16 game against 0-18 DePaul. Cincinnati was a solid mid-to-low-range team in the BE. But holy shit, they've taken on this lore of being a juggernaut by repeating over and over how freakin great they were.

Basically, they had great years in C-USA beating the shit out of whatever dregs were there... UAB or Southern Mississippi or Tulane or East Carolina... then became a 9th llace team in the Big East... then returned to playing freakin Tulane and ECU again so they're having great years again. Great bookends around their Big East seasons.

In summary for Cincinnati:
thru 2005: beat up on Tulane and ECU.
2006 thru 2013: 9th place in the Big East.
2014 to present: beat up on Tulane and ECU.

Don't tell their fans that...

[billyjack]

Crazy thread, probably done as a joke?

Anyway, just want to clear up a general misconception about Cincinnati supposedly being a powerhouse in the Big East...

These were the Bearcats' finishes in all 8 of their Big East seasons:
8th, 16th, 10th, 9th, 11th, 6th, 4th, and 9th.

They averaged finishing 9th in the Big East. In 2007 they sucked wiener at 2-16. In 2009 they lost the 9-vs-16 game against 0-18 DePaul. Cincinnati was a solid mid-to-low-range team in the BE. But holy shit, they've taken on this lore of being a juggernaut by repeating over and over how freakin great they were.

Basically, they had great years in C-USA beating the shit out of whatever dregs were there... UAB or Southern Mississippi or Tulane or East Carolina... then became a 9th llace team in the Big East... then returned to playing freakin Tulane and ECU again so they're having great years again. Great bookends around their Big East seasons.

In summary for Cincinnati:
thru 2005: beat up on Tulane and ECU.
2006 thru 2013: 9th place in the Big East.
2014 to present: beat up on Tulane and ECU.

Don't tell their fans that...

I'll preface this by saying that 3 of these teams have little interest in the Friars:

Anyway:

Sometimes on different sites i read how the Big East should add any combination of Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple and UConn... ok, just to explain this, and i think i speak for 98% of old Big East fans:

I have no interest in being in a conference with those schools, except UConn under certain conditions. Solid teams, but Temple and Memphis in particular we have no freakin history with...

- Cincinnati was the team you'd forget to mention when bragging about the Big East to your ACC friends, ok maybe they'd be the 12th team you'd remember, then you'd hope the ACC guy hadn't paid attention and thought they still had Danny Fortson. And we already have a better team from their city anyway.

- Memphis was known for 3 things... (1) being the last non BE team remaining in 1985, (2) cheating and getting Final Fours vacated, and (3) getting crushed in 1973 til Marvin blew out his knee.

- Temple... except for Villanova due to the Big 5, and a handful of games vs St John's, none of us played Temple... they weren't part of any other Big East school's world... people might as well call out the George Washington Colonials when proposing adding a team. And we have our Philadelphia school already.

That is all.