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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:03 pm

jfan wrote:Isn't Creighton guaranteed no worse than 4th, since they hold the tiebreaker with everyone but MU? (2-0 v Butler) Could be wrong since I'm not really sure I completely understand all the tiebreak procedures.


No. Their problem would be 3+ way tie scenarios....

if there is a 3 way tie with Marquette, Creighton, and Providence

Providence 3-1
Marquette 2-2
Creighton 1-3

so Creighton 5 there.

If you add Seton Hall
Providence 4-2
Seton Hall 3-3
Marquette 3-3
Creighton 2-4
(so Creighton 6 there)

if the 3 way tie is Marquette, Creighton, Seton Hall
Marquette 3-1
Seton Hall 2-2
Creighton 1-3
(so Creighton 5 there)

So if Marquette beats Xavier tonight. then beats Creighton on Saturday.
if 0 of Seton Hall or Providence win on Saturday- Creighton 4
if 1 of Seton Hall or Providence win on Saturday- Creighton 5
if 2 of Seton Hall or Providence win on Saturday- Creighton 6
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Re: Big East Tournament bracket (through Feb 26th)

Postby Bill Marsh » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:10 pm

stever20 wrote:looking at a few absolutes:
Marquette will win any 2 team tiebreak except vs Providence.
Creighton will be in 3rd unless Marquette wins out. They have a sweep vs Butler and they are 1-1 vs Providence, Xavier, and Seton Hall.
so if Xavier beats Marquette tonight, Creighton clinches 3rd


Somehow I think Marquette wins this one. :?
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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby handdownmandown » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:31 pm

The simplest way to handle that would be to have Creighton win.
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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby gmoser1210 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:41 pm

With a Marquette win tonight, which is looking more likely every minute, Xavier locks in the 7 seed. As for the others, there are 32 possible combinations of results on Saturday:

Creighton: 16 scenarios give them the 3 seed. 4 scenarios give them the 4 seed. 8 scenarios give them the 5 seed. 4 scenarios give them the 6 seed.

Providence: 8 scenarios give them the 3 seed. 12 scenarios give them the 4 seed. 8 scenarios give them the 5 seed. 4 scenarios give them the 6 seed.

Marquette: 8 scenarios give them the 3 seed. 8 scenarios give them the 4 seed. 6 scenarios give them the 5 seed. 10 scenarios give them the 6 seed.

Seton Hall: 0 scenarios give them the 3 seed. 8 scenarios give them the 4 seed. 10 scenarios give them the 5 seed. 14 scenarios give them the 6 seed.
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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:18 pm

3 seed is really very simple.
if Creighton beats Marquette, they are 3 seed.

If Marquette beats Creighton-
If PC beats St John's- PC 3 seed
if St John's beats PC- Marquette 3 seed
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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:05 pm

Big East Tournament preview and predictions: 7 NCAA tournament bids a real possibility - The Dagger - March 6, 2017

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THE KEY QUESTIONS

1. Who is the favorite?
2. Who else could win the tournament?
3. Who got the best and worst draw?

BUBBLE IMPLICATIONS

Marquette (19-11, 10-8, KenPom 28, RPI 55):
The Golden Eagles appear to be in pretty good shape, but a more nuanced look at their résumé shows that four of their five best wins on paper came against Creighton and Xavier after those teams had lost their star players to injuries. But, that being said, an upset of Villanova and a few nice non-conference victories have Marquette in pretty good position. A win over Seton Hall in the 4/5 game would be nice, but probably not necessary.

Seton Hall (20-10, 10-8, KenPom 54, RPI 43): Most bracketologists seemed to think the Pirates punched their tourney ticket with a road win at Butler on the season’s final weekend. They could do that definitively with a win over Marquette. Without it, they’re still in very good shape, but aren’t a lock.

Providence (20-11, 10-8, KenPom 53, RPI 52): The Friars have won six in a row, and four of the six victories came over postseason teams. They don’t have a win that stands alone at the top of their résumé, but they did beat Butler, and are 5-2 against fellow bubble teams. One more win would almost surely be enough.

Xavier (19-12, 9-9, KenPom 43, RPI 34): The Musketeers have beaten one team over the past month … and that team is DePaul. They have no signature wins, and most of what they do have came prior to Edmond Sumner’s season-ending injury. They almost surely need two wins, over DePaul and Butler, to save their season.

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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:44 am

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5 things you need to know about the Big East Tournament - Aaron Torres, Fox Sports - March 8, 2017

1. Will Butler get the better of Villanova again?

2. Will Creighton and Xavier ever get over their injury woes?

3. Will anyone play themselves off the bubble? Or back onto it?

4. Is this JTIII’s last stand at Georgetown?

5. Can St. John’s build momentum into next season?
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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby Toronto Rapture » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:53 am

Too bad the St. John's/Nova game won't be on prime time. Hopefully attendance will still be good for a noon start time.
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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby Bill Marsh » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:58 am

Toronto Rapture wrote:Too bad the St. John's/Nova game won't be on prime time. Hopefully attendance will still be good for a noon start time.


Attendance will be great. Both teams will bring it.
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Re: Big East Tournament Bracket (Thru Feb 26th)

Postby Red Rooster » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:29 am

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