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Postby Burrito » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:55 pm

It’s up to Jack DeGioia to make the call to replace JT3. I read they stopped announcing the coach’s name during pre game intros for home games (to avoid any booing).

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Re: JTIII is the worst coach in the NCAA

Postby SJHooper » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:49 am

I was hopeful that SJ beating G'Town was the final nail in the coffin for JTIII but it appears there's a good chance it wasn't. I will never understand why bad coaches are kept for so long with poor results. You are just building a losing culture the longer he stays. I know I've said this before but the days of me seeing G'Town come into MSG and instilling some fear as a SJ fan are long gone...and that's a problem. G'Town should have been the clear #2 after Nova every year ranked in the top 15 consistently, maybe even beating out Nova for the Big East championship every so often. If you want to start healing, you rip the bandaid off quickly, you don't torture yourself doing it slowly.

Saw on my phone a SC headline from ESPN saying that those close to the G'Town program are "frightened" of suggesting that JT3 should be fired. It's like blasphemy apparently. This is why G'Town is so down...they are too emotional with their coach. Results are what matter most. Also saw a picture of a coffee house on the G'Town campus with tip cups: 1 saying JT3 should not be fired and 1 saying hell yeah he should be fired! Guess which was full by this morning? The latter :lol:
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Re: JTIII is the worst coach in the NCAA

Postby EMT » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:44 am

SJHooper wrote:I was hopeful that SJ beating G'Town was the final nail in the coffin for JTIII but it appears there's a good chance it wasn't. I will never understand why bad coaches are kept for so long with poor results. You are just building a losing culture the longer he stays. I know I've said this before but the days of me seeing G'Town come into MSG and instilling some fear as a SJ fan are long gone...and that's a problem. G'Town should have been the clear #2 after Nova every year ranked in the top 15 consistently, maybe even beating out Nova for the Big East championship every so often. If you want to start healing, you rip the bandaid off quickly, you don't torture yourself doing it slowly.

Saw on my phone a SC headline from ESPN saying that those close to the G'Town program are "frightened" of suggesting that JT3 should be fired. It's like blasphemy apparently. This is why G'Town is so down...they are too emotional with their coach. Results are what matter most. Also saw a picture of a coffee house on the G'Town campus with tip cups: 1 saying JT3 should not be fired and 1 saying hell yeah he should be fired! Guess which was full by this morning? The latter :lol:


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Re: JTIII is the worst coach in the NCAA

Postby Red Rooster » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:02 pm

SJHooper wrote:I was hopeful that SJ beating G'Town was the final nail in the coffin for JTIII but it appears there's a good chance it wasn't. I will never understand why bad coaches are kept for so long with poor results.


The same way I'll never understand why you care so much about what another program does with their coach.

I know I've said this before but the days of me seeing G'Town come into MSG and instilling some fear as a SJ fan are long gone...and that's a problem.


If not the Hoyas, then it'll be someone else who'll instill fear into you.

G'Town should have been the clear #2 after Nova every year ranked in the top 15 consistently, maybe even beating out Nova for the Big East championship every so often.


Why should they be the "clear #2" after Villanova? There is nowhere that's written. Why can't St. John's be the clear #2? Butler? Xavier? Or, any other team in the conference besides Georgetown? Maybe, there should be a clear #1 other than Villanova? Besides, each season can entail different entities, and each team can move up, down, or status quo, per varied reasons.

The only thing I'll say is they've "clearly" underachieve the past two seasons. Clear enough? :mrgreen:
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Re: JTIII is the worst coach in the NCAA

Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:30 pm

what is so startling is the finishes.... look at the 3 non tourney years now...
2014- was 15-9 and finished 17-14 regular season. 2-5 finish(then went 1-1 in NIT)
2016- was 13-8 and finished 15-18. 2-10 finish
2017- was 13-10 is 14-16. 1-6 right now

so these 3 years combine them is 5-21 to finish the seasons. to call that limping to the finish is a major understatement.
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Re: JTIII is the worst coach in the NCAA

Postby Toronto Rapture » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:09 pm



Its also been discussed on many shows today as well, including PTI. Also discussion of declining attendance at Georgetown games.
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Re: JTIII is the worst coach in the NCAA

Postby SJHooper » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:20 am

Red Rooster wrote:
SJHooper wrote:I was hopeful that SJ beating G'Town was the final nail in the coffin for JTIII but it appears there's a good chance it wasn't. I will never understand why bad coaches are kept for so long with poor results.


The same way I'll never understand why you care so much about what another program does with their coach.

I know I've said this before but the days of me seeing G'Town come into MSG and instilling some fear as a SJ fan are long gone...and that's a problem.


If not the Hoyas, then it'll be someone else who'll instill fear into you.

G'Town should have been the clear #2 after Nova every year ranked in the top 15 consistently, maybe even beating out Nova for the Big East championship every so often.


Why should they be the "clear #2" after Villanova? There is nowhere that's written. Why can't St. John's be the clear #2? Butler? Xavier? Or, any other team in the conference besides Georgetown? Maybe, there should be a clear #1 other than Villanova? Besides, each season can entail different entities, and each team can move up, down, or status quo, per varied reasons.

The only thing I'll say is they've "clearly" underachieve the past two seasons. Clear enough? :mrgreen:



I'm a huge SJ fan first and foremost, but if you don't think the success or lack of success of G'Town is directly tied to our perception as a conference, you are mistaken. Prior to the realignment, Georgetown was a monster...they were always in the top 25 and they always performed at a high level. They may not have had much tournament success but they were definitely a blue blood brand. They were every bit as good as Villanova in the old Big East, at times better. Then realignment happened, Villanova became the big monster, Georgetown fell off a cliff, Marquette got punched in the gut (though they appear to be waking up thankfully), PC began competing, etc. We can't just keep riding Villanova's coattails if we want real respect as a conference. Eventually, they are going to have a down year and you have to wonder if anyone else can step up to that level. So that's my point...we need alternatives to Villanova. Why don't I say SJ should be the clear #2? Because we haven't won a tourney game in 16 years and the last time we won a BET was what, 17 years ago? We are a rebuilding program, not a plug and play program like Georgetown was supposed to be. They were already primed and ready with a steady head coach and tons of talent with recent success.

I saw someone said PTI discussed G'Town and JT3 last night. I watched it and Tony Kornheiser said "they lost to DePaul and St. John's...these are ghost programs they are losing to". I thought that was BS that he mentioned us and DePaul in the same breath. Even in a rebuilding year we are almost .500 in the Big East...DePaul is in its own world. He must not watch much college hoops.
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Re: JTIII is the worst coach in the NCAA

Postby billyjack » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:20 am

I'm still hoping JT3 stays on with the Hoyas, though I realize that's not the most popular opinion.

Looked at some numbers...

In games decided by 6 points or less (2 possession games) over the last 4 years:

2017 - Georgetown is 5-9 (including 0-2 in OT).
2016 - Georgetown is 3-10 (including 0-2 in OT).
2015 - Georgetown is 11-6 (including 3-1 in OT).
2014 - Georgetown is 4-4 (including 1-1 in OT).

In games decided by 2 points or less over the last 4 years:

2017 - Georgetown is 0-4 (including 0-2 in OT).
2016 - Georgetown is 1-4 (including 0-2 in OT).
2015 - Georgetown is 4-2 (including 3-1 in OT).
2014 - Georgetown is 1-2 (including 1-1 in OT).

Also, in games decided by 7 or more points:
2017 - Georgetown is 9-7.
2016 - Georgetown is 12-8.
2015 - Georgetown is 11-5.
2014 - Georgetown is 14-11.

In 2015, the Hoyas were 4 minutes away from a Sweet-16.

So looking at the last two years...
Games decided by 6 or less, Georgetown is 8-19.
Games decided by 2 or less, Georgetown is 1-8.

It's not like they're not competitive. This isn't Keno Davis or something losing by 35 every game. Why are they losing close games so much? Coaching? Luck? In 2015 they were 11-6 in close games... did the Hoyas' roster have more seniors? Just thought I'd toss this out there and see what people think. The concerning thing to me is how attendance has fallen so much.
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