Non-Big East Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby Xudash » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:14 pm

If we're being truthful about this travel business, and this is abundantly obvious, we also have to take time zones into consideration. Traveling from NYC to Miami obviously is done in the same time zone. You pop out of LaGuardia on your way to the Pac NW and it's a 3 hour adjustment.
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby Storm Fan » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:48 pm

BillikenFriar wrote:Basketball traveling isn't a big deal. Soccer, softball, women's lacrosse? Those are. The cost would really be astonishing when you consider the olympic sports having to schlep from Providence to Washington all year round.


Every time people talk about Gonzaga, they talk about only basketball and never consider the other sports that come along. Basketball alone is impractical. The others make it almost impossible.
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby gmoser1210 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:14 pm

Storm Fan wrote:Every time people talk about Gonzaga, they talk about only basketball and never consider the other sports that come along. Basketball alone is impractical. The others make it almost impossible.


It's impractical for Gonzaga who would have to fly several hours for every road game. It's not as bad for everyone else. One road game per year at Gonzaga isn't a big deal for any sport. It's definitely not an issue for track, cross country, tennis, and other sports that don't do a round-robin but just have one conference tournament at the end of the season.
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby Storm Fan » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:04 pm

gmoser1210 wrote:
Storm Fan wrote:Every time people talk about Gonzaga, they talk about only basketball and never consider the other sports that come along. Basketball alone is impractical. The others make it almost impossible.


It's impractical for Gonzaga who would have to fly several hours for every road game. It's not as bad for everyone else. One road game per year at Gonzaga isn't a big deal for any sport. It's definitely not an issue for track, cross country, tennis, and other sports that don't do a round-robin but just have one conference tournament at the end of the season.


I should have been more clear. It is impractical for Gonzaga to have all of their teams travel so far for all of their away games. For the rest of us, it is no different than an OOC west coast trip.
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby Bill Marsh » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:10 pm

Xudash wrote:If we're being truthful about this travel business, and this is abundantly obvious, we also have to take time zones into consideration. Traveling from NYC to Miami obviously is done in the same time zone. You pop out of LaGuardia on your way to the Pac NW and it's a 3 hour adjustment.


Agree. And that's a valid issue. But that's not what Val talked about or even hinted at. She talked about cost, and I don't get why cost should be an issue.
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby Bill Marsh » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:14 pm

Storm Fan wrote:
BillikenFriar wrote:Basketball traveling isn't a big deal. Soccer, softball, women's lacrosse? Those are. The cost would really be astonishing when you consider the olympic sports having to schlep from Providence to Washington all year round.


Every time people talk about Gonzaga, they talk about only basketball and never consider the other sports that come along. Basketball alone is impractical. The others make it almost impossible.


No, they really don't. It's still only one trip per team, and only for those that involve a regular schedule of games.

Gonzaga would only have to join for about 6 sports, and several sports like, golf, track, etc involve only one league tournament for the sport, not a regular schedule of inter-school competitions.
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby Bill Marsh » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:18 pm

gmoser1210 wrote:
Storm Fan wrote:Every time people talk about Gonzaga, they talk about only basketball and never consider the other sports that come along. Basketball alone is impractical. The others make it almost impossible.


It's impractical for Gonzaga who would have to fly several hours for every road game. It's not as bad for everyone else. One road game per year at Gonzaga isn't a big deal for any sport. It's definitely not an issue for track, cross country, tennis, and other sports that don't do a round-robin but just have one conference tournament at the end of the season.


Agree, bit Gonzaga isn't the one complaining. They said from the beginning that they'd make it work. I think that the smart thing to do for basketball in a league that included Gonzaga would be to schedule as many Gonzaga games as possible involving East Coast a schools during intercession to minimize the impact of long travel during on academics.
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:49 pm

The Big East could easily schedule a scheduling alliance with both Gonzaga and St Mary's. Send those two schools east for two games against two teams in a year (i.e. Villanova & Georgetown), and then send two teams west (Creighton & Marquette) to give them four games per year.
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby gtmoBlue » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:20 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:The Big East could easily schedule a scheduling alliance with both Gonzaga and St Mary's. Send those two schools east for two games against two teams in a year (i.e. Villanova & Georgetown), and then send two teams west (Creighton & Marquette) to give them four games per year.



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Send those two WC schools east for two games against two teams in a year (i.e. Marquette & Xavier), and then send two BE teams west (Seton Hall & Georgetown) to give them four games per year. Better to have those WC teams traveling to the midwest portion of the league and have EC teams trek to Moraga and Spokane, as it is well known that our BE East Coast teams are stronger and more apt to win on the road. ;)
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Re: Conference Realignment Thread v. 2017

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:53 am

billyjack wrote:2016 Attendance Averages For Various Teams:

Again, just to get this down on paper:
I bolded any number at 5,000 or above.

What's the deal with Siena anyway? We walked their campus last summer. Really nice, north of Albany. Small campus. Small student body. Somehow they get 6k+ to the Times Union. UAlbany is closer to downtown and gets half that.
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Went to the Siena-Manhattan game yesterday. Got into a conversation with a guy who is a SUNY Albany alum, so I asked him why Siena draws so much better than U Albany does up there. He shrugged and said it's just the local culture. Maybe similar to how PC basketball evolved over the years as compared with URI?
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