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Re: (4) Big East - Opening Night Conference Games

Postby DudeAnon » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:11 pm

stever20 wrote:so lets look at the Ken Pom Offensive rating for the A+B level games(considered top 100 level team on a neutral court)

Ohio St 108
Memphis 137
Virginia 94
Rhode Island 88
Xavier 22

UMass is not good. Yes, they're 10-3. But that's against #286 OOC SOS in Ken Pom, #139 current OOC SOS in RPI, and projected 166 OOC in RPI Forecast. They may finish top 100 RPI, but being a home game- that's not considered an a or b level game.

I think looking at it- and taking into account billyjacks comments about Maine Wagner- fatigue may be coming into play....

in November- he played 7 games. His average offensive rating game was 112.7. Avg opponent in November in Ken Pom was 151.9.
In December he played 7 games. His average offensive rating game was 80.7. Avg opponent in December in Ken Pom was 171.3.

and more so- look at the shooting....
in November he shot 52-105. 49.5%
in December he shot 32-87. 36.8%

And it's been much more just these last 4 games....
1st 10 games- avg opp 149.3 Avg off rating 111.6. shooting 71-142 overall 50%
last 4 games- avg opp 192.3. Avg off rating 59.5(with 3 of 4 worst games) shooting 13-50 26%.


Just admit you were wrong. You said Bullock has been awful against any team with a pulse and you were wrong.
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Re: (4) Big East - Opening Night Conference Games

Postby stever20 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:23 pm

overall he hasn't been good against good teams. 1 really good game- vs #86 Memphis. Ohio St he was decent- you say 27 points. but that was on 20 shots. Off rating of 108 which is good.

And I didn't say he's been awful, just that he's not shown up.

He's had 8 games with an over 100 offensive rating....
#41 Ohio St
#344 Grambling
#335 St Francis NY
#86 Memphis
#269 Brown
#116 UMass
#196 Boston College

he's had 6 games with a sub 100 offensive rating- 4 of the 6 best teams he's faced he's had a sub 100 day.
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Re: (4) Big East - Opening Night Conference Games

Postby milksteak » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:16 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
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stever20 wrote:so Providence/Xavier last night. Was that Xavier looking incredible, or Providence looking like what a lot of us thought preseason- a 7th or 8th place team?


Bullock is the heart and soul of that team. Xavier shut him down last night. Providence's success moving forward will be largely dependent on Bullock. I still think they're the 6th team in this league.


Could be 8th. :x


I am not convinced the Providence is worse than Marquette AND Georgetown. Those two programs have a lot more to prove right now than Providence.
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Re: (4) Big East - Opening Night Conference Games

Postby whiteandblue77 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:01 pm

The number one storyline and bottom line for this thread was proven by DePaul last night: EVERYBODY is a "PULSE" team in the BIG FRIGGIN' EAST this year. ZERO nights off.
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Re: (4) Big East - Opening Night Conference Games

Postby Bill Marsh » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:34 pm

milksteak wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
milksteak wrote:
Bullock is the heart and soul of that team. Xavier shut him down last night. Providence's success moving forward will be largely dependent on Bullock. I still think they're the 6th team in this league.


Could be 8th. :x


I am not convinced the Providence is worse than Marquette AND Georgetown. Those two programs have a lot more to prove right now than Providence.


And both have a lot more talent.

I'm a Providence fan and I'm saying "could be", not will be. The Friars really don't have Big East caliber depth
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