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Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:26 am**

UDPride RPI Rankings

The RPI Rankings for individual teams are meaningless this early in the season, but Conference RPI Rankings now have enough data points to take a snapshot for future reference and to make a few very early observations, noting that there are 32 conferences..

Conference RPI Rankings on Monday November 21, 2016

Conference RPI Ranking, Conference Name, Conference RPI, (Conference Record), Conference SOS Ranking

1 Big East .6549 (29-7) 1

2 Big Ten .5782 (38-9) 24
3 Atlantic Coast Conference .5774 (46-8) 28
4 Southeastern .5626 (38-8) 27
5 Pac 12 .5475 (31-7) 30
7 Big 12 .5404 (28-2) 32

12 Atlantic 10 .5013 (32-16) 25
15 American Athletic Conference .4942 (23-15) 23
16 Conference USA .4928 (17-21) 11

The Big East (.655) has a huge early lead over the Big Ten (.578) and ACC (.577) in Conference RPI.

The Big East is playing a lot of good teams – unlike the P5 conference schools, who are gorging themselves on cupcakes.

With a # 32 Conference SOS Ranking, the Big 12 has played the easiest schedule in the country to date.

The Atlantic 10, American Athletic Conference, and Conference USA are off to rough starts.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:20 am**

Still early but love what the league is doing in the non-conference

Georgetown needs to get their sh*t together tho

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:26 am**

Hoya Hoya Hoya wrote:Still early but love what the league is doing in the non-conference

Georgetown needs to get their sh*t together tho

As does Marquette.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:29 am**

looking at things, the Big East is projected to have the #3 rpi with the #7 SOS. tough to take the projections all that seriously right now given a lot of teams don't have their full schedule known yet(but this will become a lot more valid after this week after the exempt tournaments are completed).

It's tough to take the RPI seriously right now- case in point, UCF who Nova beat is 3-1 and #15 in the RPI- with wins over Nicholls St, Miss St, Charleston, and the loss to Nova.

Posted: **Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:45 am**

UDPride RPI Rankings

The RPI Rankings are very volatile until mid-January, but I’m posting this as a tribute to the Big East’s great success to date.

The Big East is still # 1 in Conference RPI (.6319) and SOS Rank (.6362). Congratulations on an excellent start to the season.

RPI Ranking, Team, RPI, (Record vs. Div. I Teams)
1 Creighton .8071 (5-0)
2 Xavier .7851 (5-0)
7 Villanova .7399 (6-0)
14 Butler .6794 (6-0)
43 Providence .6344 (4-1)
98 Georgetown .5630 (2-4)
104 Seton Hall .5588 (4-1)
113 DePaul .5460 (3-1)
152 Marquette .5125 (3-2)
165 St. John's (NY) .4930 (2-4)

Others:
13 Virginia Commonwealth .6814 (5-1)
42 Dayton .6356 (3-2)
50 Northeastern .6225 (3-2)
158 Wichita State .5069 (5-2)
249 Connecticut .4312 (1-4)
277 Richmond .3973 (3-2)
285 Saint Louis .3918 (2-3)

Posted: **Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:22 pm**

It's very early in the season so I don't want to make a huge deal about this... but I normally follow the RPI rankings throughout every season and right now on the RPILive by WarrenNolan the top three spots are as follows:

1. XAVIER
2. CREIGHTON
3. VILLANOVA

First time I see this from the Big East since tracking this after the reboot four years ago. Obviously is early. But it's nice to see solid RPIs

RPI LIVE as of 11/26 9:23PM EST
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2017/rpi-live

Posted: **Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:28 pm**

ecasadoSBU wrote:It's very early in the season so I don't want to make a huge deal about this... but I normally follow the RPI rankings throughout every season and right now on the RPILive by WarrenNolan the top three spots are as follows:

1. XAVIER
2. CREIGHTON
3. VILLANOVA

First time I see this from the Big East since tracking this after the reboot four years ago. Obviously is early. But it's nice to see solid RPIs

RPI LIVE as of 11/26 9:23PM EST
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2017/rpi-live

didn't last for long- UCF just beat Seattle U 67-51 and their RPI dropped from 14 to 33. As a result, Nova is down to 4 with Northern Iowa of all teams #3. Shows just how early that is.

Posted: **Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:01 am**

RPI is crap. It's seriously irritating that it's the preferred system.

Posted: **Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:35 pm**

just looking with a few games left this weekend Big East still #1 with a huge lead.

1 Big East .6318
2 ACC .6044
3 Big Ten .5861
4 SEC .5823
5 Big 12 .5735
6 A10 .5297
7 WAC .5240
8 AAC .5228
9 WCC .5195
10 MWC .5176

do you notice something? That's right, the P12 is #12 right now at .5141, barely ahead of the Patriot.

Posted: **Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:59 am**

milksteak wrote:
RPI is crap. It's seriously irritating that it's the preferred system.

Not to worry – the RPI is quietly being de-emphasized by the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee.

Officially, the Selection Committee will retain the RPI Rankings as its primary evaluation tool because RPI does not reward coaches for running up the score, and the NCAA does not want to be seen to encourage college basketball coaches to run up the score against overmatched opponents.

Unofficially, the Selection Committee is making increased use of the 'eye test' and advanced metrics to ensure that the 'right teams' receive at-large bids.

When It Comes to the 'Eye Test', Trust, but Verify – ESPN - February 25, 2014

Eamonn Brennan wrote:
Every year around this time, we start hearing about the "eye test," or what the members of the NCAA men's basketball selection committee see when they watch teams play.

Late last week, Sports Illustrated's Seth Davis briefly brought it back to the fore by tweeting: "People underestimate how much the 'eye test' matters to people on the committee. Those folks watch a LOT of games. They trust what they see."

Opinions differ not just about teams but about what criteria should be used to judge the merits of those teams in the first place. Some will hew to the RPI. Some will mix in advanced metrics. And some -- maybe most? -- will trust their eyes. How can we be sure?

The larger problem, of course, is the reliability of an eye test in the first place.

Selection Committee Use of RPI – Holy Land of Hoops thread - February 16, 2016

sciencejay wrote:
This is an excerpt from a column in today's Omaha World Herald in which CU AD Bruce Rasmussen (who is on the Selection Committee) discusses the committee's use of RPI, KenPom, etc. Interesting and enlightening. Here's the link: http://www.omaha.com/sports/shatel-febr ... ece00.html

On Selection Day, There Are Metrics, and Then There Are Advanced Metrics – New York Times - March 11, 2016

Marc Tracy wrote:
According to several current and former members of the men’s basketball selection committee, the 10-member panel has increasingly relied on more sophisticated metrics to guide its decisions.

“The common metrics most of us use are KenPom, Sagarin, L.R.M.C., B.P.I., K.P.I.,” the committee chairman, Oklahoma Athletic Director Joe Castiglione, told reporters Wednesday, sounding like an economist rattling off the names of various federal departments.

In plainer language, Castiglione tried to reassure one reporter despondent over Michigan’s then-tenuous chances: “We’re using more and more metrics than we were in the past. It isn’t just the R.P.I.”

3-Year Average Final RPI Ranking - Team - ( 2013-14 Final RPI Ranking • 2014-15 Final RPI Ranking • 2015-16 Final RPI Ranking )

5 - Villanova ( 8 • 6 • 2 )
30 - Xavier ( 56 • 28 • 8 )
34 - Providence ( 46 • 25 • 32 )

67 - Georgetown ( 75 • 24 • 103 )
79 - Butler ( 154 • 30 • 53 )
82 - BE Average ( 83 • 77 • 87 )
87 - Seton Hall ( 136 • 103 • 23 )
89 - Creighton ( 17 • 157 • 94 )

116 - Marquette ( 94 • 145 • 111 )
126 - St. John's ( 82 • 52 • 245 )
185 - DePaul ( 157 • 197 • 201 )

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