The Holy Land of Hoops

Didn't want to start a totally new topic involving SJ, but the other SJ thread is locked.

There seems to be 2 types of SJ fans I've observed so far:

Type A:
-Everything is always positive
-Everything is acceptable
-Dress code and in game behavior does not matter
-Anything goes
-Optimistic to a fault
-No criticism allowed
-Redmen.com posters

Type B:
-Realist
-High standards and expectations
-Dress code/behavior matters
-Professionalism
-Criticism is welcomed/appropriate
-Not PC, based on facts
-Twitter posters

I love the hire and I think he can be successful here especially after some of our major recruits start to play and get experience. That does not however mean you can wear sneakers to games, or sit on the scorers table, or wear flip flops. Many SJ fans (Type A) will try to say that it's no big deal, just win and get better. That is insanity. Being a college basketball coach in a major conference is a real job. It's a professional job. Looks and behavior form PERCEPTION. And as we all know, perception is everything. Sitting on the scorers table signals you are not interested, lazy, and not up to the task of coaching your team. Intention does not matter. Wearing t-shirts and flip flops/sneakers to recruiting visits/games signals that you are not professional and look like some guy off the street. Intention does not matter. Staying quiet and letting your 25 yr old assistant take over signals you are submissive and not sure of what you're doing. Intention does not matter.

So like I said, I love the hire, I think we will be successful, and I know Mullin never coached before, but these are all easy, quick fixes. You should always be in a nice suit and dress shoes, you should never be sitting at the scorers table for 5 min during a blowout, you should never let your 25 assistant run the show while you stand there idly. This isn't a camp counselor job, this is the Big East. You are making $2 million a year and already have a fortune from the NBA. You are the head coach of a major program. Act like it.

I'll admit my man crush on Jay Wright. If anyone embodies the perfect coach I'd like to see at SJ, it's him. Great personality, light but can be serious, gets instant respect in the room, always dresses/acts professionally, knows how to recruit, and gets the fundamentals down while his players show development year to year. So yes it does matter. If that weren't enough, countless studies prove that it matters.

SJHooper wrote:Didn't want to start a totally new topic involving SJ, but the other SJ thread is locked.

There seems to be 2 types of SJ fans I've observed so far:

Type A:
-Everything is always positive
-Everything is acceptable
-Dress code and in game behavior does not matter
-Anything goes
-Optimistic to a fault
-No criticism allowed
-Redmen.com posters

Type B:
-Realist
-High standards and expectations
-Dress code/behavior matters
-Professionalism
-Criticism is welcomed/appropriate
-Not PC, based on facts
-Twitter posters

I love the hire and I think he can be successful here especially after some of our major recruits start to play and get experience. That does not however mean you can wear sneakers to games, or sit on the scorers table, or wear flip flops. Many SJ fans (Type A) will try to say that it's no big deal, just win and get better. That is insanity. Being a college basketball coach in a major conference is a real job. It's a professional job. Looks and behavior form PERCEPTION. And as we all know, perception is everything. Sitting on the scorers table signals you are not interested, lazy, and not up to the task of coaching your team. Intention does not matter. Wearing t-shirts and flip flops/sneakers to recruiting visits/games signals that you are not professional and look like some guy off the street. Intention does not matter. Staying quiet and letting your 25 yr old assistant take over signals you are submissive and not sure of what you're doing. Intention does not matter.

So like I said, I love the hire, I think we will be successful, and I know Mullin never coached before, but these are all easy, quick fixes. You should always be in a nice suit and dress shoes, you should never be sitting at the scorers table for 5 min during a blowout, you should never let your 25 assistant run the show while you stand there idly. This isn't a camp counselor job, this is the Big East. You are making $2 million a year and already have a fortune from the NBA. You are the head coach of a major program. Act like it.

I'll admit my man crush on Jay Wright. If anyone embodies the perfect coach I'd like to see at SJ, it's him. Great personality, light but can be serious, gets instant respect in the room, always dresses/acts professionally, knows how to recruit, and gets the fundamentals down while his players show development year to year. So yes it does matter. If that weren't enough, countless studies prove that it matters.

"That does not however mean you can wear sneakers to games, or sit on the scorers table, or wear flip flops."

Awww is that you Desco? Damn Joe3 no one had any idea Desco was you. images/icons/smile/mrgreen.gif

This might be a cop-out answer. But Mullin has more basketball knowledge in his left pinkie than we all do combined. Give it time.

I think Mullin will be OK. I have said it before but Yakwe, Ponds, Sima, Lovett, etc. THESE are the type of players you want to build a program around and Mullin is already bringing them in. Guys like Alkins are obviously a bonus, but I have found, like with a guy like Rysheed Jordan for example, sometimes these guys can do more harm than good for a program like St. John's. Mullin needs to stick with the highly rated 3-star recruits and the 4-star recruits ranked in the Top 75 to 125 range. He continues to bring them in, and they stick around, SJU will be just fine.

With that being said, I still think one of the Hurleys, probably Danny, might have been a better choice.

SJHooper wrote:Didn't want to start a totally new topic involving SJ, but the other SJ thread is locked.

There seems to be 2 types of SJ fans I've observed so far:

Type A:
-Everything is always positive
-Everything is acceptable
-Dress code and in game behavior does not matter
-Anything goes
-Optimistic to a fault
-No criticism allowed
-Redmen.com posters

Type B:
-Realist
-High standards and expectations
-Dress code/behavior matters
-Professionalism
-Criticism is welcomed/appropriate
-Not PC, based on facts
-Twitter posters

I love the hire and I think he can be successful here especially after some of our major recruits start to play and get experience. That does not however mean you can wear sneakers to games, or sit on the scorers table, or wear flip flops. Many SJ fans (Type A) will try to say that it's no big deal, just win and get better. That is insanity. Being a college basketball coach in a major conference is a real job. It's a professional job. Looks and behavior form PERCEPTION. And as we all know, perception is everything. Sitting on the scorers table signals you are not interested, lazy, and not up to the task of coaching your team. Intention does not matter. Wearing t-shirts and flip flops/sneakers to recruiting visits/games signals that you are not professional and look like some guy off the street. Intention does not matter. Staying quiet and letting your 25 yr old assistant take over signals you are submissive and not sure of what you're doing. Intention does not matter.

So like I said, I love the hire, I think we will be successful, and I know Mullin never coached before, but these are all easy, quick fixes. You should always be in a nice suit and dress shoes, you should never be sitting at the scorers table for 5 min during a blowout, you should never let your 25 assistant run the show while you stand there idly. This isn't a camp counselor job, this is the Big East. You are making $2 million a year and already have a fortune from the NBA. You are the head coach of a major program. Act like it.

I'll admit my man crush on Jay Wright. If anyone embodies the perfect coach I'd like to see at SJ, it's him. Great personality, light but can be serious, gets instant respect in the room, always dresses/acts professionally, knows how to recruit, and gets the fundamentals down while his players show development year to year. So yes it does matter. If that weren't enough, countless studies prove that it matters.

Oh give me a F'in break!!! You are such a bi polar nutjob most of the time and now you try and spin it as you being a realist. You were so down on the team last year who made the NCAA. You're a HORRIBLE fan who is looking for any small thing to complain about! You know why most of us don't care if he sits on the scorers table? Because it doesn't F'in matter!!'

Seriously, you're a dumbed down version of stever.

ChestRockwell85 wrote:I think Mullin will be OK. I have said it before but Yakwe, Ponds, Sima, Lovett, etc. THESE are the type of players you want to build a program around and Mullin is already bringing them in. Guys like Alkins are obviously a bonus, but I have found, like with a guy like Rysheed Jordan for example, sometimes these guys can do more harm than good for a program like St. John's. Mullin needs to stick with the highly rated 3-star recruits and the 4-star recruits ranked in the Top 75 to 125 range. He continues to bring them in, and they stick around, SJU will be just fine.

With that being said, I still think one of the Hurleys, probably Danny, might have been a better choice.

So do you think nova should only go after 3 star kids in the 75-125 range? No? Well that's funny...

DudeAnon wrote:This might be a cop-out answer. But Mullin has more basketball knowledge in his left pinkie than we all do combined. Give it time.

Yes... It's a cop out...Doesn't make him a good coach....

EMT wrote:

DudeAnon wrote:This might be a cop-out answer. But Mullin has more basketball knowledge in his left pinkie than we all do combined. Give it time.

Yes... It's a cop out...Doesn't make him a good coach....

Doesn't hurt. Lets wait and see. Like I have said before, I think he will be successful.

NJRedman wrote:

ChestRockwell85 wrote:I think Mullin will be OK. I have said it before but Yakwe, Ponds, Sima, Lovett, etc. THESE are the type of players you want to build a program around and Mullin is already bringing them in. Guys like Alkins are obviously a bonus, but I have found, like with a guy like Rysheed Jordan for example, sometimes these guys can do more harm than good for a program like St. John's. Mullin needs to stick with the highly rated 3-star recruits and the 4-star recruits ranked in the Top 75 to 125 range. He continues to bring them in, and they stick around, SJU will be just fine.

With that being said, I still think one of the Hurleys, probably Danny, might have been a better choice.

So do you think nova should only go after 3 star kids in the 75-125 range? No? Well that's funny...

Only? Probably not, but Nova has been very successful with players in that range or below. Darren Hilliard was only a 2 star recruit. Jayvaughn Pinkston, Ryan Arcidiacono, Josh Hart, Kris Jenkins, Phil Booth, Donte Divincenzo, Mikal Bridges, all in the 75-125 range. Daniel Ochefu wasn't much higher either, if you can identify and develop underrated talent, then you can be very successful.

it hasn't even been one year into his job.

I would start the evaluation mid way thru BE season NEXT YEAR.