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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby Jet915 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:00 pm

New Rivals Top 150:

22. Spellman (Villanova)
85. Goodin (Xavier)
100. Brunk (Butler)
117. Baldwin (Butler)
122. Washington (Butler)
123. Mosely (Georgetown)
126. Jones (Xavier)
135. Hauser (Marquette)

http://sports.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-rivals150/2016
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby Bearcat_Bounce » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:53 pm

marquette wrote:
Bearcat_Bounce wrote:Let's try this agan:

Has the AAC surpassed the mighty Big East??

#16 Spellman (Villanova)
#71 Brunk (Butler)
#84 Hauser (Marquette)
#91 Jones (Xavier)
#94 Goodin (Xavier)
Avg: 71.2

#28 Alterique Gilbert (Connecticut)
#38 Juwan Durhman (Connecticut)
#65 Jarron Cumberland (Cincinnati)
#88 Troy Baxter (South Florida)
#90 Mamadou Diarra (Connecticut)
Avg: 61.80

I guess I was on to something! Let's go AAC, we got this!


It's very nice that y'all are content to play WCC to UConn's Gonzaga.

LMAO! UConn has finished in 5th and 6th place respectively the two seasons of the AAC. Nice try though!
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby MUBoxer » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:07 pm

Bearcat_Bounce wrote:LMAO! UConn has finished in 5th and 6th place respectively the two seasons of the AAC. Nice try though!


Why're you doing top 5? Let's just do top three... maybe class of 2015?

#5 Henry Ellenson (Marquette)
#16 Jalen Brunson (Villanova)
#67 Jessie Govan (Georgetown)

43.33

#25 Jalen Adams
#26 Dedrick Lawson
#44 KJ Lawson

65.66

This is stats we can both make a cut off and pick and choose a way for it to make our opinion look better. As a college educated individual I'd expect you to know that. Really the only way we could actually compare is by comparing our recruiting from every program since the class of 2013. Which, while it could settle a major debate, it'd be wayyy too time consuming.
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby MUBoxer » Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:23 pm

Eh what the heck I'll do it. This list is only those who committed initially I don't want to do the leg work to look into former top 100s who transferred into programs nor will it include the guys who were in for MU but decommitted when Buzz left. ESPN is the source.

AAC

2013 (9 recruits, 2 maintained, avg 57.33)

#15 Austin Nichols (Left Memphis)
#33 Kuran iverson (Left Memphis)
#35 Jermaine Lawrence (Left Cincinnati)
#37 Nick King (Left Memphis)
#49 Keith Frazier (SMU)
#64 John Egbunu (Left South Florida)
#90 Dominic Woodson (Left Memphis)
#95 Rashawn Powell (Left Memphis)
#98 Kentan Facey (UConn)

2014 (3 recruits, 1 maintained, avg 34)

#5 Emmanuel Mudiay (Never made it to SMU)
#30 Daniel Hamilton (UConn)
#67 Dominic Magee (Left Memphis)

2015 (6 recruits, avg 54.16)

#25 Jalen Adams (UConn)
#26 Dedric Lawson (Memphis)
#44 KJ Lawson (Memphis)
#55 Nick Marshall (Memphis)
#79 Shake Milton (SMU)
#96 Levan Alston (Temple)

2016 (5 recruits, avg 61.8)

#28 Alterique Gilbert (UConn)
#38 Juwan Durham (UConn)
#65 Jarron Cumberland (Cincinnati)
#88 Troy Baxter (South Florida)
#90 Mamadou Diarra (UConn)

23 Recruits, 14 maintained/committed, avg 54.43

Big East

2013 (11 recruits, 7 maintained, avg 62.81)

#17 Rysheed Jordan (St Johns)
#27 Jajuan Johnson (Marquette)
#39 Deonte Burton (Left Marquette)
#53 Duane Wilson (Marquette)
#56 Brandon Austin (Left Providence)
#63 Reggie Cameron (Georgetown)
#73 Kris Jenkins (Villanova)
#86 Brandon Randolph (Left Xavier)
#91 Jaren Sina (Left Seton Hall)
#92 Josh Hart (Villanova)
#94 Billy Garrett Jr. (Depaul)

2014 (13 recruits, 12 maintained, avg 56.92)

#14 Isaiah Whitehead (Seton Hall)
#16 Isaac Copeland (Geogetown)
#31 L.J. Peak (Georgetown)
#34 Paul White (Georgetown)
#46 Trevon Bluiett (Xavier)
#48 Angel Delgado (Seton Hall)
#61 Paschal Chukwu (Left Providence)
#71 Ronnie Harrell (Creighton)
#78 Edmond Sumner (Xavier)
#82 Mikal Bridges (Villlanova)
#83 Sandy Cohen (Marquette)
#84 Jalen Lindsey (Providence)
#92 Phil Booth (Villanova)

2015 (5 recruits, avg 52.4)

#5 Henry Ellenson (Marquette)
#16 Jalen Brunson (Villanova)
#67 Jessie Govan (Georgetown)
#85 Haanif Cheatham (Marquette)
#89 Marcus Derrickson (Georgetown)

2016 (5 recruits, avg 71.2)

#16 Omari Spellman (Villanova)
#71 Joey Brunk (Butler)
#84 Sam Houser (Marquette)
#91 Tyrique Jones (Xavier)
#94 Quentin Goodin (Xavier)

34 recruits, 29 maintained/committed, avg 60.26

Take away: You guys are recruiting higher than us, considerably lower quantity, have major issues keeping the recruits that you do get, and have a horrible distribution with 15 of your recruits being Memphis and UConn and the other 8 split between four other teams (6/11). Comparatively the Big East doesn't go for as high recruits though has done great at keeping them at the schools and has a decent distribution with 7 from Marquette, 6 for Nova, 6 for GTown, 5 for X. Then 3 PC, 3 SH, 1 SJU, 1 Butler, 1 Depaul, 1 Creighton. (10/10)
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby Westbrook#36 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:19 am

If the AAC is such a good conference, then why are Cincy and UConn looking for the nearest emergency escape hatch? Oh, that's right because they both know the AAC is one steaming turd of a conference.
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby stever20 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:17 am

the thing to watch with recruiting is how it's been the last 2 years. 2014 was a transition year. 2015-16 it's 11 AAC, 10 Big East. AAC with 6 schools getting recruits, BE with 5 schools getting recruits.

UConn 4
Memphis 3
SMU 1
Temple 1
Cincy 1
USF 1

Marquette 3
Georgetown 2
Villanova 2
Xavier 2
Butler 1

The list though doesn't seem right because I believe Lovitt should be on there for St John's- and then also you have to give St John's credit for Yawke.
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby Jet915 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:31 am

Crazy how all 6 of Memphis' recruits from 2013-14 have left already.
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:45 am

stever20 wrote:the thing to watch with recruiting is how it's been the last 2 years. 2014 was a transition year. 2015-16 it's 11 AAC, 10 Big East. AAC with 6 schools getting recruits, BE with 5 schools getting recruits.

UConn 4
Memphis 3
SMU 1
Temple 1
Cincy 1
USF 1

Marquette 3
Georgetown 2
Villanova 2
Xavier 2
Butler 1

The list though doesn't seem right because I believe Lovitt should be on there for St John's- and then also you have to give St John's credit for Yawke.


That's Stever speak for; "let me present only the data points that fit my argument on how the conference I love (the AAC) is better than the BE."
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby Burrito » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:48 am

Memphis will give up on Pastner at some point.
And Larry Brown isn't getting any younger.

The AAC had a bad year last year winning only 6 of 29 games against the P5 but should be better this year.
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Re: New 2016 ESPN Top 100 Rankings

Postby stever20 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:01 am

Burrito wrote:Memphis will give up on Pastner at some point.
And Larry Brown isn't getting any younger.

The AAC had a bad year last year winning only 6 of 29 games against the P5 but should be better this year.


I agree with you. The one thing though- Memphis getting rid of Pastner- they're still going to get really good recruits... Memphis has missed the tourney 2x since 2003, and only 11 times since 1982. I think a new coach at Memphis will get them back better than where they've been the last few years.

While Brown isn't getting younger, Sampson is starting to build up Houston- a program with a lot more history on it's side than SMU.
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