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AP Top 25 appearances

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:35 am
by Edrick
I came across this list and it occurred to me that its about as representative of present college basketball program rank you are going to find.

Its pretty interesting.. BTW. the Big East has six top 50 programs.

http://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbask ... cDoMflVhBc

Re: AP Top 25 appearances

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:47 am
by stever20
Edrick wrote:I came across this list and it occurred to me that its about as representative of present college basketball program rank you are going to find.

Its pretty interesting.. BTW. the Big East has six top 50 programs.

http://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbask ... cDoMflVhBc


how about this- in the last 2 years- so the new Big East Era- 7 top 50's. With Seton Hall being the 7th with 3 appearances. 1 more than Providence, which is amazing given the 2 programs.

Last 10 years, which is the start of the new Big East 16 team era/all the moves from CUSA- current Big East programs had 4 of the top 21. Georgetown 121, Nova 119, Marquette 86, and Butler 85.

Re: AP Top 25 appearances

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:34 pm
by FriarJ
If you go back to 1960 generally considered the year college basketball took off in popularity the BE has 9 of it's 10 teams in the top 75 in all-time appearances. When you hear our commish talking about the history of the programs in this league she's not blowing smoke. I just hope the schools can start winning some damn NCAA games soon, outside of X who has certainly held up their end of this.

Re: AP Top 25 appearances

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:39 pm
by stever20
FriarJ wrote:If you go back to 1960 generally considered the year college basketball took off in popularity the BE has 9 of it's 10 teams in the top 75 in all-time appearances. When you hear our commish talking about the history of the programs in this league she's not blowing smoke. I just hope the schools can start winning some damn NCAA games soon, outside of X who has certainly held up their end of this.

I'd really even say use 1985 on- the advent of the 64 team tournament and also the 3pt line/shot clock era....
#9 Georgetown 316
#29 Villanova 188
#35 Marquette 152
#40 St Johns 127
#42 Xavier 120
#50 Butler 88
#60 Seton Hall 71
#63 Creighton 57
#68 DePaul 52
#96 Providence 18

So 6 in the top 50, and all 10 in the top 100.

Re: AP Top 25 appearances

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:39 pm
by Edrick
The absolute earliest I'd consider going back is 79/80 (the media modern era = bird/magic) or 1985 (64+ team) to try to assign some sort of rank, however, for this I just took a range that someone else had already done. But, 2000-2015 kind of makes sense because A. Its a nice round number B. Its sufficiently long C. The range is more or less the life span of the recruits that will ostensibly continue those things on.

The 1960s (etc) is akin to the dead ball era in baseball. Its nice to talk about and should be respected but it has absolutely no bearing on the present standing of modern organizations (programs)

Re: AP Top 25 appearances

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:37 pm
by GumbyDamnit!
An interesting stat about this list... Out of the Top 50 there are 14/50 (28%) teams that are, or at one time were, members of the Big East Conference. In the top 100: 20. Over the years the Big East brand has been (and still is) synonymous with excellence in college hoops.

Re: AP Top 25 appearances

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:53 pm
by stever20
GumbyDamnit! wrote:An interesting stat about this list... Out of the Top 50 there are 14/50 (28%) teams that are, or at one time were, members of the Big East Conference. In the top 100: 20. Over the years the Big East brand has been (and still is) synonymous with excellence in college hoops.

to dovetail...
since 1980-
Every team that moved from Big East to ACC is in the top 100- Syracuse, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame, Boston College, Miami, and Virginia Tech.
West Virginia is in the top 100.
UConn and Cincy in the top 100.

Only 2 teams that played with us NOT in the top 100 are Rutgers and USF. And they never made it.

Re: AP Top 25 appearances

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:40 am
by MUBoxer
Maybe it's just me but I think it should be 2002 to 2014