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hoyahooligan wrote:

Amase2 wrote:
Think Dunn is best player in the conference and only player that is sure to be better than Rysheed. Take nothing away from DSR, Arch, and Dunham, they all had better seasons last year and are right up there but they dont have the potential that Rysheed caries. At least in my opinion.

Truth is, Sheeds conference stats last year were as good as any guards in the conference, he was just surrounded by 3 seniors who performed and thus got most the recognition. Wouldnt put any freshmen ahead of any of those guys you mentioned.

Stop making me "hate" on St. John's.

Jordan scored. He put up 14pts /game and improved his 3pt shot. Decent on rebounds and steals as well. But his turnovers are a major negative 95 assists to 93 turnovers. His turnover rate was higher than his assist rate on kenpom. Only a 98 offensive rating. The 66% from the line is a major negative too. Jordan is more athletically gifted than DSR, Arch, and Dunham. But he doesn't have it between the ears the way the other 3 do and thus will likely never be as good as them due to his low BBIQ. Maybe Mullin can improve that some, but that's a hard thing to teach.

Rum_Ham wrote:Any SJU fans know if Christian Jones will be back? He doesn't really play much at Mullin could probably find a better player or transfer with that scholarship

Amase2 wrote:

hoyahooligan wrote:

Amase2 wrote:
Think Dunn is best player in the conference and only player that is sure to be better than Rysheed. Take nothing away from DSR, Arch, and Dunham, they all had better seasons last year and are right up there but they dont have the potential that Rysheed caries. At least in my opinion.

Truth is, Sheeds conference stats last year were as good as any guards in the conference, he was just surrounded by 3 seniors who performed and thus got most the recognition. Wouldnt put any freshmen ahead of any of those guys you mentioned.

Stop making me "hate" on St. John's.

Jordan scored. He put up 14pts /game and improved his 3pt shot. Decent on rebounds and steals as well. But his turnovers are a major negative 95 assists to 93 turnovers. His turnover rate was higher than his assist rate on kenpom. Only a 98 offensive rating. The 66% from the line is a major negative too. Jordan is more athletically gifted than DSR, Arch, and Dunham. But he doesn't have it between the ears the way the other 3 do and thus will likely never be as good as them due to his low BBIQ. Maybe Mullin can improve that some, but that's a hard thing to teach.

ok to your first comment? You think lesser of Jordan than I do, thats all. I seem to remember you thinking sju would be much worse this past year than they were the year before.

But back to this, when I said those three had better seasons than Jordan did I was?? Turnovers were a huge issue, will always be a problem but can only improve. So how confident are you in saying that Jordan will have the 4th best season out of those mentioned? Cause im pretty confident he wont.

Amase2 wrote:

Rum_Ham wrote:Any SJU fans know if Christian Jones will be back? He doesn't really play much at Mullin could probably find a better player or transfer with that scholarship

We have 3 open scholarships as is. Plus he redshirted and would lose a year of eligibility if he transferred to a D1 school. Hope he sticks around, I happen to like him.

hoyahooligan wrote:

Amase2 wrote:
Think Dunn is best player in the conference and only player that is sure to be better than Rysheed. Take nothing away from DSR, Arch, and Dunham, they all had better seasons last year and are right up there but they dont have the potential that Rysheed caries. At least in my opinion.

Truth is, Sheeds conference stats last year were as good as any guards in the conference, he was just surrounded by 3 seniors who performed and thus got most the recognition. Wouldnt put any freshmen ahead of any of those guys you mentioned.

Stop making me "hate" on St. John's.

But he doesn't have it between the ears the way the other 3 do and thus will likely never be as good as them due to his low BBIQ. Maybe Mullin can improve that some, but that's a hard thing to teach.

Red Rooster wrote:

hoyahooligan wrote:

Amase2 wrote:
Think Dunn is best player in the conference and only player that is sure to be better than Rysheed. Take nothing away from DSR, Arch, and Dunham, they all had better seasons last year and are right up there but they dont have the potential that Rysheed caries. At least in my opinion.

Truth is, Sheeds conference stats last year were as good as any guards in the conference, he was just surrounded by 3 seniors who performed and thus got most the recognition. Wouldnt put any freshmen ahead of any of those guys you mentioned.

Stop making me "hate" on St. John's.

Mase doesn't have to do anything towards you for you to hate on St. John's. No one has to twist your arm to get you "hating" on them. IMO, you found a way to "dislike" St. John's by the quote below:

But he doesn't have it between the ears the way the other 3 do and thus will likely never be as good as them due to his low BBIQ. Maybe Mullin can improve that some, but that's a hard thing to teach.