St. John's 2015-2016 Roster??

[stever20]

who he lost:
DIallo #5 in 247 Composite
Rowan #39 in 247 Composite
Sampson #53 in 247 Composite

Saying he "lost" them implies that he "had" them. He never did, so let it go.

He lost out on them.

All I said at first, and I'll say it again. Mullin has done a great job this year. Just being able to field a competitive team this year is remarkable basically losing everyone. But to take it to the next level, he's got to actually land those top 50 level players, not just be in the game for them. He's landed good players, not great, game changing players.

[Red Rooster]

who he lost:
DIallo #5 in 247 Composite
Rowan #39 in 247 Composite
Sampson #53 in 247 Composite

Saying he "lost" them implies that he "had" them. He never did, so let it go.

He lost out on them.

All I said at first, and I'll say it again. Mullin has done a great job this year. Just being able to field a competitive team this year is remarkable basically losing everyone. But to take it to the next level, he's got to actually land those top 50 level players, not just be in the game for them. He's landed good players, not great, game changing players.

I'll say it again, he's only been on the job for 4 months. Giving him a full, recruiting cycle would be the wise thing to do, huh? I wouldn't expect that from you, though. As, that would entail making sense.

[stever20]

The problem is quite frankly- a full recruiting cycle won't be until the class of 2017. I mean this year already 20 of the top 50 for 2016 are committed.

Look. If I was doing Mullin's offseason on a scale of 1-10, I'd give him like a 8-9. Not perfect, but very very good.

[NJRedman]

The problem is quite frankly- a full recruiting cycle won't be until the class of 2017. I mean this year already 20 of the top 50 for 2016 are committed.

Look. If I was doing Mullin's offseason on a scale of 1-10, I'd give him like a 8-9. Not perfect, but very very good.

Go run along back to the realignment board and tell everyone how the AAC is such a great conference and that the Big East is the new A-10 where they will then pat you on your head and give you a treat. You aren't a fan of the Big East.

[billyjack]

As Omaha said, Mullin didn't "lose" any recruits. That's a ridiculous word to use. What did happen was that a high-level, top-shelf recruit considered St John’s to be elite enough to make the final cut. The recruit chose a different, also elite program at NC State.

[stever20]

As Omaha said, Mullin didn't "lose" any recruits. That's a ridiculous word to use. What did happen was that a high-level, top-shelf recruit considered St John’s to be elite enough to make the final cut. The recruit chose a different, also elite program at NC State.

lose may be too strong of a word, but didn't get is fair. I don't necessarily agree with the thought that just being in on the 3 is a good thing because end of the day, none of the 3 help. That just feels like a consolation prize. The old if you are 2nd place, that means you're the first loser. Being in on the kids is great, but eventually someone has to go for it to mean anything.

And Mullin did in a way lose Sampson. Remember he was committed to St John's when Lavin was there.

[stever20]

Column about St John's...
http://bustingbrackets.com/2015/08/03/s ... s-in-2016/

I think this part is spot on....

Judging on the harshest scale, Mullin has struck out on the Class of 2015. He has added an array of prospects, but has missed out on the names that would have made the program relevant immediately.

[TBC Alum]

And to complete the thought of who won't be on the roster, Obekpa to UNLV (with a year out and 1 year remaining)
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/05/st-johns-transfer-chris-obekpa-is-headed-to-unlv/

[billyjack]

"Judging in the harshest scale"... wtf...?

The guy has had 4 months on the job. Bill Self, etc, have been on these recruits for years. Crazy.

[Red Rooster]

"Judging in the harshest scale"... wtf...?

The guy has had 4 months on the job. Bill Self, etc, have been on these recruits for years. Crazy.

The guy must gets off intentionally stirring the pot or he's a putz.