ESPN Bracketology 2-19

[gosports1]

The A10 wasn't the former home to 7/10 current Big East members, nor does any team in that conference have the historical success of UConn, Cinncy, Temple, and Memphis. Furthermore, there are relationships between UConn-everyone in the BE, Cinncy-Xavier, and Nova-Temple that stretch back decades while only Xavier has a significant history with the A10.

not be picky but PC/URI have a history.your point remains.
how far back does st louis go with marquette?

[stever20]

Bring on Kentucky baby!

be careful what you wish for.... you might just get it.

[marquette]

The A10 wasn't the former home to 7/10 current Big East members, nor does any team in that conference have the historical success of UConn, Cinncy, Temple, and Memphis. Furthermore, there are relationships between UConn-everyone in the BE, Cinncy-Xavier, and Nova-Temple that stretch back decades while only Xavier has a significant history with the A10.

not be picky but PC/URI have a history.your point remains.
how far back does st louis go with marquette?

I did forget that one. My bad, thanks for the correction. In all honesty, the comparisons to the A10 last year were probably mostly insecurity on the part of our first year league more than anything. We were having a down year, they were having the best year in their history. The AAC was looking reasonably solid (although the fact that UL was leaving was a concern). This year we are doing much better and the other leagues have begun to regress to the mean. We are no longer feeling threatened by the A10, but still a bit vindictive towards the AAC. Is it logical? Maybe not, considering the programs that screwed over the C7 are mostly gone. It is, however, fairly natural.

Strictly speaking we have a decent history with SLU, but I don't think we ever really considered them a particularly important opponent. The all-time series sits at MU 31 SLU 23. The series began in 1926. We have not played since 2005. We've had a nice series, but I wouldn't call any of it important history or refer to it as a rivalry. I very seriously doubt that most Marquette fans are even aware that we were in a conference together.

[gavitspeaks]

The A10 wasn't the former home to 7/10 current Big East members, nor does any team in that conference have the historical success of UConn, Cinncy, Temple, and Memphis. Furthermore, there are relationships between UConn-everyone in the BE, Cinncy-Xavier, and Nova-Temple that stretch back decades while only Xavier has a significant history with the A10.

Remind us all again what historical success Cincy and Temple and Memphis all have that is so phenomenal when speaking comparatively to other schools? How are you defining historical?

[novahoops11]

The A10 wasn't the former home to 7/10 current Big East members, nor does any team in that conference have the historical success of UConn, Cinncy, Temple, and Memphis. Furthermore, there are relationships between UConn-everyone in the BE, Cinncy-Xavier, and Nova-Temple that stretch back decades while only Xavier has a significant history with the A10.

not be picky but PC/URI have a history.your point remains.
how far back does st louis go with marquette?

As embarrassing as it is to admit, Nova also has a history with both Saint Josephs(PA) and LaSalle. See also: St Johns/Fordham and Georgetown/GW, although I believe that ended in the 70s.

[Edrick]

Butler has played Depauw a crap ton of times too. Who cares? The number of games you've played against a program should be absolute non-factor in any of it. It's simply about "does it make the conference better/more money?"

There are no schools that do that are also private and reside in a realistic location.

[hoyahooligan]

The A10 wasn't the former home to 7/10 current Big East members, nor does any team in that conference have the historical success of UConn, Cinncy, Temple, and Memphis. Furthermore, there are relationships between UConn-everyone in the BE, Cinncy-Xavier, and Nova-Temple that stretch back decades while only Xavier has a significant history with the A10.

Remind us all again what historical success Cincy and Temple and Memphis all have that is so phenomenal when speaking comparatively to other schools? How are you defining historical?

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/tag/_/name/50-in-50-series

Temple #18 "Accumulated the ninth-most points (197) from 1984-2001. The eight teams ahead of the Owls in that period all won a national title. Reached five Elite Eights from 1988-2001 and 17 of 18 NCAA tournaments from 1984-2001 (missed in 1989). "
Memphis #19 "Three Final Four appearances, including two trips to the national title game; eight other Sweet 16 appearances; 13 regular-season conference titles (eight since 1995); eight consensus All-Americans; six top-10 picks;"
Cinci #24 "Made 1963 national title game; also made Final Four in 1992; received credit for 24 conference titles (12 regular season, 12 tourney); five consensus first-team All-Americans (seven total); four top-10 picks. " Cinci won the 61 and 62 national championships.

Only Georgetown, Villanova, and Marquette are ahead of these 3.

[murphy]

Temple joined the A-10 in '82, Xavier '95. One wonders where Dayton would finish with Temple, Butler and Xavier still in the conference and with their recent add of G Mason, etc..

Not totally sure where they would end up in the A10 standings with Temple and XU back in the A10, but we can look at their run against the power conference elite in the tourney last year, beat Ohio State, beat UCON, beat Stanford, and current w/l is 20-5. Draw you own conclusions

[hoyahooligan]

Temple joined the A-10 in '82, Xavier '95. One wonders where Dayton would finish with Temple, Butler and Xavier still in the conference and with their recent add of G Mason, etc..

Not totally sure where they would end up in the A10 standings with Temple and XU back in the A10, but we can look at their run against the power conference elite in the tourney last year, beat Ohio State, beat UCON, beat Stanford, and current w/l is 20-5. Draw you own conclusions

1) I guess I missed the part where Dayton beat the National Champion UConn in the NCAA tournament last year.

2) Dayton is 2-2 vs the top 50 of the RPI this year. Those wins Texas AM who has 0 top 50 wins, and Ole miss. SO you beat two paper tiger SEC teams that stink but happen to have top 50 RPIs. Only good team they've played is Arkansas and they lost by 14.

[stever20]

even with Dayton they may be a paper tiger in the conference....
Dayton 10-3
VCU 10-3(Dayton not played yet)
Rhode Island 10-3(Dayton not played yet)
Davidson 9-4(Davidson won 77-60)
UMass 9-4(UMass won 66-64)
GW 7-6 (GW won 65-64)
La Salle 7-6 (Dayton won at home, still have to play on the road)
Richmond 7-6 (Dayton won at home)

so of the 7 other top teams in the conference they've gone only 2-3 against those, and haven't played the 2 best teams yet at all).