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P5 Passes Cost Of Attendance Provision

Postby HoosierPal » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:12 am

To no one's surprise, the P5 passed the proposed cost of attendance proposal this past weekend. They also passed the guaranteed 4 year scholarship issue.

It is fair to assume that all non-football major BB conferences will follow suit. The one outstanding question is how will the $$ playing field be governed. The proposal was fairly silent. So will schools be allowed to set their own cost of attendance figure? It certainly costs more to live in NY then it does in Omaha, so will St. John's be able to offer a prospective student athlete more outside money then Creighton offers? Are college student athletes astute enough to figure out the Cost of Living Index, and how $3000 in Omaha may stretch farther than $5000 in New York? Will John Calipari be able to justify a $25,000 attendance figure for Lexington KY. (Attempt at humor.) Let's hope that some guidelines are developed.

I saw this interesting comments from a student athlete on the guaranteed scholarship. "No one wants to unjustly take an athletic scholarship away," Oklahoma center Ty Darlington said. "But this definitely restricts coaches. ... There's always the guy who didn't fail a drug test, he's not ineligible, he didn't break a specific team rule, he's always at every practice and meeting but his attitude is terrible and he needs to go."
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Re: P5 Passes Cost Of Attendance Provision

Postby robinreed » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:28 pm

I am not sure that all basketball conferences will pass the cost of living increases. I think we in the Big East will assuredly do so however the A10, Horizon, MVC and some others may not do so. Obviously this puts them at a disadvantage in recruiting.

As I understand the articles concerning this increase it will apply to all scholarship sports and must apply equally to men and women. Let's say the increase is about $10,000 per student and the schools have 100 men's and women's sports scholarships. So we are talking an extra 1 mm per year. I presume that some of the smaller schools in smaller conferences may have difficulty with such an increase. Another problem would be if a few of the conferences had 1 or more schools which could not afford the extra million bucks. What happens, are they shown the gate?

A few years ago I read that the University of Hawaii had 320 sports scholarships. They also are paying travel costs for all their opponents to come to Hawaii to play UH at home. I know their attendance in basketball is nothing to write home about and suspect their football attendance may be less than stellar also. They are already losing a great deal of money and now will lose 3.2 mm more. Schools like UH may not have a future in sports and may be forced not to pay the increases.
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Re: P5 Passes Cost Of Attendance Provision

Postby BEhomer » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:49 pm

this will surely cause dissensions among F5 rather than unite them. with ncaa out of the picture how are they going to regulate themselves? who's going to stop calipari from paying the top recruit 100K? same (even worse) goes for football side of the house. it's going to be a bidding war between texas and alabama for that top qb prospect.
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Re: P5 Passes Cost Of Attendance Provision

Postby TheBall » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:59 am

This is bad news for conference of americans. Those schools are already so deep in the red with huge expenses and no revenue, and now their expenses are going to increase while the product on the field will continue to get worse and the revenue isn't going to be increasing. How are schools like temple that has already slashed a third of its athletic department going to adjust?

Great news for the big east though. Gives us a chance to match what the other schools are offering and gives us some separation from other conferences.
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Re: P5 Passes Cost Of Attendance Provision

Postby Noonzy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:07 am

The A 10 will do it as well.
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Re: P5 Passes Cost Of Attendance Provision

Postby HoosierPal » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:10 pm

BEhomer wrote:this will surely cause dissensions among F5 rather than unite them. with ncaa out of the picture how are they going to regulate themselves? who's going to stop calipari from paying the top recruit 100K? same (even worse) goes for football side of the house. it's going to be a bidding war between texas and alabama for that top qb prospect.


Hey, watch it. It's darn expensive living in Lexington KY. Have you priced a mint julep lately? You can't use just any off the shelf whiskey. NOOOO. You need top of the line, aged Kentucky bourbon for the Wildcat players. And none of that sugar bought in a sack. NOOOO. You need imported sugar crystals for the boys in Blue. And all those bets on the ponies. Come on, $100K might be a good starting point for Cali's boys, but a guy has to live a little. After all, once the first semester grades are in, the one and done boys have no need to attend classes. Lots of time to spend money needed between mid December and the end of March Madness.
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Re: P5 Passes Cost Of Attendance Provision

Postby TheBall » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:56 pm

Noonzy wrote:The A 10 will do it as well.


If so, that is actually gr8 news for the A10. Gives them a chance to separate from the other conferences in the 7-12 range and establish themselves as a good place for recruits to play. They might be among the biggest winners in that sense.
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Re: P5 Passes Cost Of Attendance Provision

Postby HoosierPal » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:20 am

I found this interesting explanation from the University of Missouri AD. He is suggesting Missouri will give $3000 to each player.

The $3,000 annual stipend applies only to athletes in the so-called headcount sports — sports where athletes receive full scholarships, not partial scholarships. At MU, the headcount sports include football, men’s and women’s basketball, gymnastics and women’s volleyball. The other sports — softball, baseball, track and field, etc. — are considered equivalency sports, where each team receives a set number of scholarships and they’re split among the team members at the coaches’ discretion.

In the equivalency sports, an athlete who’s on a 20-percent athletic scholarship can receive up to 20 percent of the cost of attendance figure.

“If that number is $3,000, then that person would be eligible for $600 toward the full cost of attendance,” Alden said.
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