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Re: Best Case Scenario

Postby stever20 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:24 am

I think part of any best case scenario would be to know where the teams finish in conference play. Some teams if they finished 7th in conference play would have a lot better shot to make the tourney than others. For instance, if Butler finished 7th in conference play at 9-9, they will almost certainly be in. However, if any of the 3 loss teams finish in 7th at 9-9, they are in deep trouble. You start getting to 12 and then 13 losses- that's a lot.

Also to get 7 in, you would have to have some serious separation from the top 7 to the other 3. Yeah you have DePaul and maybe Marquette. But who's that other team? Also probably would need top 1-2 seeds to not separate as much as they did last year.

Key is going to be here in the next 2 weeks. Got to keep winning these OOC games- and avoid having teams entering conference play with 3 losses. To have any hope in getting 7, you have to have a team that could finish in 7th but have only 1 OOC loss- maybe 2 at the very most.
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Re: Best Case Scenario

Postby gtmoBlue » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:12 pm

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Creighton has enjoyed a home court advantage ( extreme homers) like no other, it's going to be a little tougher homering G town and Nova...[/quote]

It wasn't so tough last year...and we expect to continue winning at home .
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Re: Best Case Scenario

Postby Westbrook#36 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:36 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:[quote="BEwannabe]
Creighton has enjoyed a home court advantage ( extreme homers) like no other, it's going to be a little tougher homering G town and Nova...[/quote]

It wasn't so tough last year...and we expect to continue winning at home .[/quote][/quote][/quote]


First off, this is how you use the quote button, not too difficult.

Secondly, you're responding to a known AAC/A-10 troll.

Lastly, guess St. Mary's didn't get that memo.
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Re: Best Case Scenario

Postby Hall2012 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:05 pm

stever20 wrote:I think part of any best case scenario would be to know where the teams finish in conference play. Some teams if they finished 7th in conference play would have a lot better shot to make the tourney than others. For instance, if Butler finished 7th in conference play at 9-9, they will almost certainly be in. However, if any of the 3 loss teams finish in 7th at 9-9, they are in deep trouble. You start getting to 12 and then 13 losses- that's a lot.

Also to get 7 in, you would have to have some serious separation from the top 7 to the other 3. Yeah you have DePaul and maybe Marquette. But who's that other team? Also probably would need top 1-2 seeds to not separate as much as they did last year.

Key is going to be here in the next 2 weeks. Got to keep winning these OOC games- and avoid having teams entering conference play with 3 losses. To have any hope in getting 7, you have to have a team that could finish in 7th but have only 1 OOC loss- maybe 2 at the very most.


Well Seton Hall is the team that could finish with 1 or 2 non-conference losses and then finish 7th (though I do think they'll be better than that). The problem though, is it may not be enough because of their weak schedule. They would need to beat nova and pick up another 1 or 2 top 25 wins in conference play.
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Re: Best Case Scenario

Postby stever20 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:07 am

Hall2012 wrote:
stever20 wrote:I think part of any best case scenario would be to know where the teams finish in conference play. Some teams if they finished 7th in conference play would have a lot better shot to make the tourney than others. For instance, if Butler finished 7th in conference play at 9-9, they will almost certainly be in. However, if any of the 3 loss teams finish in 7th at 9-9, they are in deep trouble. You start getting to 12 and then 13 losses- that's a lot.

Also to get 7 in, you would have to have some serious separation from the top 7 to the other 3. Yeah you have DePaul and maybe Marquette. But who's that other team? Also probably would need top 1-2 seeds to not separate as much as they did last year.

Key is going to be here in the next 2 weeks. Got to keep winning these OOC games- and avoid having teams entering conference play with 3 losses. To have any hope in getting 7, you have to have a team that could finish in 7th but have only 1 OOC loss- maybe 2 at the very most.


Well Seton Hall is the team that could finish with 1 or 2 non-conference losses and then finish 7th (though I do think they'll be better than that). The problem though, is it may not be enough because of their weak schedule. They would need to beat nova and pick up another 1 or 2 top 25 wins in conference play.

I think in that scenario, Seton Hall needs to really beat Georgia on Sunday. That gets them into conference play 11-1. 9-9 in conference gets them 20-10 and that I think should be enough to make the tourney.

Huge period before Christmas coming up for any best case scenario-
Tuesday Arizona St @ Marquette
Thursday Seton Hall @ USF, DePaul @ Oregon St
Friday- St Mary's @ St John's
Saturday- Charlotte @ Georgetown, UMass @ Providence, Butler vs Indiana, Xavier @ Auburn big- and then Syracuse @ Villanova not big necessarily for best case scenario- but moreso for them for seeding purposes
Sunday- Seton Hall @ Georgia
even week from Monday DePaul vs Colorado, Miami vs Providence
(and then DePaul in other 2 games in Hawaii).

So like 11 games there that are just real important. Have to go at least 9-3(if you include the Nova game as well). The St John's, Butler, and Xavier games now are just huge- don't want Butler and Xavier to pick up loss 3, and don't want St John's to get #2(with Duke later in the OOC schedule).
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Re: Best Case Scenario

Postby stever20 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:31 am

Just looking at Ken Pom right now- is close to a best case scenario.
Villanova 27-4 14-4
Georgetown 19-10 11-7
St John's 22-9 11-7
those 3 obviously easily in.

4/5 game is 20-11 10-8 Xavier vs 21-10 10-8 Butler. Think Butler would be in regardless. Xavier with a loss, would be awfully uncomfortable.

Seton Hall 6th at 19-11 9-9. BET game would likely be a play-in game for them.

Creighton at 18-13 8-10. Think they would need to get to the SF to get in the tourney.

Providence at 16-15 7-11. They would likely need to win the BET to get in the tourney.
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