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By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:38 am
by gmoser1210
I posted this in another thread, but I wanted to keep this separated from the arguments over what is and isn't a good loss as judged by a team's name/conference/history. In this thread, I'll keep track of our wins over RPI top 50, RPI top 100, and RPI top 150, and our losses to teams outside of the RPI top 100. All RPI rankings will be taken from warrennolan.com. I plan on updating this every Sunday after all games have been played.
Very Good Wins (over RPI Top 50)
Butler over UNC (#12)
Creighton over Oklahoma (#50)
Providence over Yale (#40)
Good Wins (over RPI 51-100)
Butler over Georgetown (#84)
DePaul over Stanford (#77)
Marquette over Georgia Tech (#94)
Seton Hall over Gardner-Webb (#58)
Seton Hall over Illinois State (#61)
Seton Hall over George Washington (#73)
Villanova over VCU (#60)
Villanova over Michigan (#69)
Xavier over Long Beach State (#55)
Wins that might be good (RPI 101-150)
Creighton over North Carolina Central (#114)
Georgetown over Florida (#109)
Providence over Albany (#148)
Saint John's over Minnesota (#131)
Bad Losses (to teams outside of the RPI top 100)
Ole Miss (#137) over Creighton
Lehigh (#186) over DePaul
Nebraska-Omaha (#166) over Marquette
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:39 am
by gmoser1210
Games this week:
Tuesday, December 2
#184 Northern Illinois at DePaul
#223 Niagara at Saint John's
#224 Mount Saint Mary's at Seton Hall
Wednesday, December 3
Butler at #215 Indiana State
Creighton at #173 Tulsa
Villanova at #130 La Salle
Thursday, December 4
DePaul at #303 Chicago State
Friday, December 5
Providence at #90 Boston College
Saturday, December 6
#91 Northwestern at Butler
#3 Wisconsin at Marquette
Saint John's at #33 Syracuse
#192 Rutgers at Seton Hall
#249 St. Joseph's at Villanova
#25 Alabama at Xavier
Sunday, December 7
Creighton at #83 Nebraska
#309 Milwaukee at Depaul
#182 Towson at Georgetown
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:31 am
by BillikenFriar
Am I missing the PC over Notre Dame win or is it missing?
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:19 am
by Irishdawg
BillikenFriar wrote:Am I missing the PC over Notre Dame win or is it missing?
I believe ND just moved into the RPI top 150 very recently, which is why it isn't listed as a good win right now, though I fully expect by the end of the year it will be.
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:30 pm
by gmoser1210
Notre Dame is currently #188.
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:48 pm
by GumbyDamnit!
Way, way, way too early to use RPI as a measure of good wins and losses. When I see PC over Yale as a better win than Gtwn over Fla or Nova over Michigan, I have seen all I need to see.
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:40 pm
by Jet915
This thread will be relevant in a month. Thanks for doing it though.
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:22 pm
by gmoser1210
GumbyDamnit! wrote:Way, way, way too early to use RPI as a measure of good wins and losses.
That's why I said I'm going to update it weekly. For now, the main purpose is to provide interesting information for data-oriented people like me who might like to watch as the RPI uses a larger and larger sample.
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:46 am
by Bill Marsh
Here's a take on what you set up, using RPI Forecast, which is a better measure at this point in the season IMO:
TOP 50 WINS
Butler over #8 North Carolina
Butler over #50 Georgetown
Creighton over #24 Oklahoma
Villanova over #28 VCU
Villanova over #32 Michigan
51-100 WINS
DePaul over #58 Stanford
Georgetown over #61 Florida
St. John's over #64 Minnesota
Providence over #66 Yale
Providence over #68 Notre Dame
Seton hall over #63 GW
Seton Hall over #90 Illinois State
Xavier over #67 Long Beach State
Xavier over #93 Stephen F Austin
101-150 WINS
Marquette over #104 Georgia Tech
Xavier over #113 San Diego
Creighton over #136 North Carolina Central
Providence over #144 Albany
Seton Hall over #146 Gardner Webb
BAD LOSSES
#178 Nebraska Omaha over Marquette
#213 Lehigh over DePaul
Re: By the Numbers: Good Wins and Bad Losses
Posted:
Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:26 pm
by gmoser1210
Update after all games completed on 7-December-2014.
Very Good Wins (over RPI Top 50)
Seton Hall over Gardner-Webb (#24)
Villanova over VCU (#26)
Xavier over Alabama (#34)
Butler over UNC (#35)
Creighton over Oklahoma (#38)
Providence over Yale (#42)
Good Wins (over RPI 51-100)
Marquette over Georgia Tech (#57)
DePaul over Stanford (#62)
Seton Hall over George Washington (#64)
Xavier over Long Beach State (#71)
Butler over Georgetown (#72)
Saint John's over Minnesota (#75)
Saint John's over Syracuse (#77)
Butler over Northwestern (#88)
Seton Hall over Illinois State (#95)
Xavier over Stephen F. Austin (#98)
Seton Hall over Rutgers (#100)
Wins that might be good (RPI 101-150)
Villanova over Michigan (#113)
DePaul over Northern Illinois (#119)
Creighton over North Carolina Central (#104)
Creighton over Nebraska (#105)
Georgetown over Florida (#130)
Bad Losses (to teams outside of the RPI top 100)
Nebraska-Omaha (#236) over Marquette
Lehigh (#186) over DePaul
Tulsa (#102) over Creighton