The Holy Land of Hoops

More interesting stuff from Breibart (ugghh):

"Fox Sports 1 made the Big East the only basketball conference to top $150 million in profit this year as the conference also grabs the most top recruits per team. The ACC may pass the mark with the addition of a program more profitable than all but a few football teams, and Maryland may take the Big Ten above the $150 million mark as well."


Conference Profit
Big East $154,122,296
B1G $138,054,933
ACC $133,479,911
SEC $124,636,534
B12 $105,706,308
Pac12 $80,129,005


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/07/30/follow-money-realignment/

1. BE almost doubled the profit of the Pac12.
2. ACC will supplant the B1G w/the arrival of Louisville.
3. AAC nowhere to be found.

Not bad considering all the doomsday prepper talk that went on during the 1st year of nBE bball.

154 million in profit in one year???? We get around 50 million from Fox a year, so the teams together made 100 million bucks in profit this year??? Seems high but it's nice to hear.

With only 10 teams. If we are supplanted by the ACC and B1G, it will only be because they have 16 and 14 teams, respectively. Nice work, everyone.

I think this may be old data- pre split.

On the link from Statistic Brain- it says there are 120 FBS schools. Last year there were 124 FBS schools.

Also football attendance last year was almost 51 million, not 47.9 million as listed on the sheet... It hasn't been 47.9 million since 2006.

Also- Breitbart misread the column that he linked to. The 154 million is not profit but revenue.

Right on cue....

Bluejay wrote:Right on cue....

+1

stever20 wrote:I think this may be old data- pre split.

On the link from Statistic Brain- it says there are 120 FBS schools. Last year there were 124 FBS schools.

Also football attendance last year was almost 51 million, not 47.9 million as listed on the sheet... It hasn't been 47.9 million since 2006.

Also- Breitbart misread the column that he linked to. The 154 million is not profit but revenue.

I believe this is the only post in which I have agreed with Stever. I have seen these numbers before and if memory is correct they are for the pre-split Big East.

If each of our schools gets 4 to 5 mm from Fox then they would have to make 11 mm from attendance and other sources. Unfortunately I doubt any conference does that now. Especially not one with 10 members. Don't worry we will get there eventually.

Another indication is that the Statistics Brain list (from which Breitbart took his numbers) includes the following conference descriptions:

Most Profitable College Basketball Conferences Men’s Basketball Revenue
Big East $154,122,296
Big Ten $138,054,933
ACC $133,479,911
SEC $124,636,534
Big 12 $105,706,308
Pac-10 $80,129,005
A-10 $54,582,759

You will note that the PAC-12 is referred to as the PAC-10 which it has not been since 2012. I would like the most recent information but do not have the time to look it up now. Got to get to brunch. Have a good weekend everyone.

Not only that but...

if you take the revenue from the top 7 conferences supposedly- 790,711,746. 86 teams in those 7 conferences. that would be an average of 9.194 million dollars. If Those 7 conference teams averaged 9.194 million, how in the hell would the average college basketball team make 10.1 million? There's just no way...

And GREAT point about it listing the Pac 10- it's not been the Pac 10 now for 3 years(can't believe that!)

I am back from my meal and visit to the park to watch knothole baseball and have tried to find current info on NCAA basketball finances. It is more difficult than I imagined. The NCAA website only gives info to 2012 and nothing since. There is a circa 100 page report which on page 75 gives information on non-football schools revenue for basketball. This information would be of very little use since we did not exist as a non football conference at that time. The information is divided into 3 headings; FBS, FCS and Non-Football schools.

On non-football schools the median income for non football division one schools is $3915,000 and revenue minus expenses (loss) is $60,000 per school. I strongly suspect our schools made a fairly good profit each however because 2012 is the most recent information release there is no way of knowing.

I invite someone more dedicated to and competent with stats than I to look over the report and try to determine if it has any pertinent information. The NCAA website is http://www.ncaapublications.com/product ... RevExp.pdf

The one thing that is depressing is how much was spent on sports and how little was made from them. True they have other value and can be a great advert for the school, but the idea of profit from sports seems limited to Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama and others like them. How can Breitbart claim to have 2014 stats when the NCAA does not have stats past 2012?

One other cautionary statement would be if non-football schools in 2012 averaged a small loss what happens if the NLRB ruling for private schools is upheld by the courts? With all the increases in full cost of scholarship, for life health insurance, additional food costs and a payroll for the students we will need to go to Fox as humble supplicants and beg for additional monies.

Old info:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sportsmoney ... erences/3/