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Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:49 pm
by Jet915
2014 Attendance Avg Per Game (By Conference)

1.Big Ten 13,534
2. Atlantic Coast 10,661
3. Big 12 10,489
4. Southeastern 10,353
5. Big East 9,711

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2014-06-13/big-ten-sets-attendance-mark-conference-again-leads-nation

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:54 pm
by Bill Marsh
Jet915 wrote:2014 Attendance Avg Per Game (By Conference)

1.Big Ten 13,534
2. Atlantic Coast 10,661
3. Big 12 10,489
4. Southeastern 10,353
5. Big East 9,711

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2014-06-13/big-ten-sets-attendance-mark-conference-again-leads-nation


Thanks for posting this article. If nothing else, it shows that by any standard including attendance, the Big East is a power conference. Not only is it ahead of the PAC-12, an accepted power conference, but it's also ahead of basketball power conference wannabe's like the AAC. Amazing that the AAC couldn't match the Big East this year with Louisville pulling in 383,000 fans all by themselves. Combined with Rutgers, the AAC is losing close to half a million fans going into next season. The additions of ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa will be lucky to generate 40% of that combined, which represents a major loss to the conference.

While some might point to the lack of national championships in recent years as a negative for the Big East's credentials as a power conference, the Big Ten hasn't been much better in the past 25 years. Viewed in terms of championships and Final Fours in the modern or "open tournament" era (1975-2014), the Big East members combined actually compare favorably with both the Big XII and PAC-12.

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:42 pm
by marquette
We definitely did well for ourselves this season. Obviously nobody is catching the B1G any time soon, but it is encouraging that the gap between #2 ACC (10,661) and us at #5 (9,711) is smaller than the difference between us and #6 AAC (8,776). That kind of gap really shows that we belong with the top leagues. I do expect a dip in our attendance next year, but we will stabilize over time. The AAC is also due for a dip since Louisville is leaving.


I don't see last year's individual team numbers up yet on the NCAA website. If anyone is interested in individual numbers, I ran them for MU. We drew a total of 245,232 over a 16 home game slate. Average attendance was 15,327 which is up 294 over last year. I'm pleasantly surprised by this considering our garbage OOC home schedule this season (including heavy-hitters like Southern, Grambling, New Hampshire, IUPUI, Ball State, and Samford). We were helped by high preseason expectations.

Our high water mark was Ohio State at 18,756. Our in-conference peak was Xavier with 18,644. Our low point was Grambling with 13,372. In-conference it was Butler with 14,479.

We could go either way next season with OOC home games against Wisconsin, Arizona State, and possibly a B1G or PAC12 opponent, depending on when we get those challenges going. On the other hand, I expect fewer season tickets to be sold since we are not expected to be very good next year. The game against Wisconsin will sell out the BC, so I anticipate something close to 19,000. Other than that I have no idea what to expect.

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:51 am
by Bill Marsh
marquette wrote:We definitely did well for ourselves this season. Obviously nobody is catching the B1G any time soon, but it is encouraging that the gap between #2 ACC (10,661) and us at #5 (9,711) is smaller than the difference between us and #6 AAC (8,776). That kind of gap really shows that we belong with the top leagues. I do expect a dip in our attendance next year, but we will stabilize over time. The AAC is also due for a dip since Louisville is leaving.


I don't see last year's individual team numbers up yet on the NCAA website. If anyone is interested in individual numbers, I ran them for MU. We drew a total of 245,232 over a 16 home game slate. Average attendance was 15,327 which is up 294 over last year. I'm pleasantly surprised by this considering our garbage OOC home schedule this season (including heavy-hitters like Southern, Grambling, New Hampshire, IUPUI, Ball State, and Samford). We were helped by high preseason expectations.

Our high water mark was Ohio State at 18,756. Our in-conference peak was Xavier with 18,644. Our low point was Grambling with 13,372. In-conference it was Butler with 14,479.

We could go either way next season with OOC home games against Wisconsin, Arizona State, and possibly a B1G or PAC12 opponent, depending on when we get those challenges going. On the other hand, I expect fewer season tickets to be sold since we are not expected to be very good next year. The game against Wisconsin will sell out the BC, so I anticipate something close to 19,000. Other than that I have no idea what to expect.


Yes, and AAC attendance is evaporating before our eyes with the departure of Louisville.

Individual attendance numbers are available on the stats section of each school's website. The NCAA is slow about posting this sort of thing.

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:28 pm
by flyerlax06
I'd like to see the adjusted #'s or numbers as a % of max.

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:10 am
by Bluejay
flyerlax06 wrote:I'd like to see the adjusted #'s or numbers as a % of max.


I'd like to see the attendance of each of the schools. Is our attendance high across the board or are there really only a couple of teams with tremendous attendance that are significantly inflating the average for the remaining teams?

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:03 am
by flyerlax06
Bluejay wrote:
flyerlax06 wrote:I'd like to see the adjusted #'s or numbers as a % of max.


I'd like to see the attendance of each of the schools. Is our attendance high across the board or are there really only a couple of teams with tremendous attendance that are significantly inflating the average for the remaining teams?


Providence's total home attendance (16 games) was 133,548 which is an average of 8,347/game. The Dunk has a capacity of 12,400 so PC's % of max is 67.31%. Attendance at Big East games was higher than the season average but the Butler blizzard game hurt the numbers. BE home games averaged 9,706/game for a % of max of 78.27%. This includes the 2,022 that attended the Butler game on 1/21/14 when there was a blizzard in Rhode Island. Removing that one game from the equation and the average attendance for the other 8 games was 10,667 with a % of max of 86.02%.

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:18 am
by xavier1994
http://fs.ncaa.org/docs/stats/m_basketb ... d/2014.pdf

All Home Games

5. Creighton 17,896
14. Marquette 15,327
42. Xavier 9,890
48. Villanova 8,943
51. Georgetown 8,670
56. Providence 8,347
59. Butler 7,780
66. St. Johns 7,036
80. DePaul 6,363
81. Seton Hall 6,336

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:45 am
by DudeAnon
Bluejay wrote:
flyerlax06 wrote:I'd like to see the adjusted #'s or numbers as a % of max.


I'd like to see the attendance of each of the schools. Is our attendance high across the board or are there really only a couple of teams with tremendous attendance that are significantly inflating the average for the remaining teams?


+1, we probably have the highest ratio of fans to alumni of any conference in the country. Some state schools with millions more alumni can't even get the attendance numbers we do.

Re: Big East 5th in attendance for 2013-14

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:15 am
by hoyahooligan
xavier1994 wrote:http://fs.ncaa.org/docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/reports/attend/2014.pdf

All Home Games

5. Creighton 17,896
14. Marquette 15,327
42. Xavier 9,890
48. Villanova 8,943
51. Georgetown 8,670
56. Providence 8,347
59. Butler 7,780
66. St. Johns 7,036
80. DePaul 6,363
81. Seton Hall 6,336


Ouch Georgetown's attendance is really down last year. I feel like we're normally over 10,000.