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ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:18 pmby dmac80
ACC tournament to go to Barclays Center in Brooklyn in 2017-18The deal is done, and the ACC tournament is coming to the Barclays Center in Brooklyn for 2017 and 2018, a person with direct knowledge of the agreement told USA TODAY Sports.
The Barclays Center is expected to hold a news conference to announce the news on Wednesday.
Currently, the Atlantic 10 hosts its postseason tournament at the Barclays Center and had been under contract with the venue to host it there through 2017. The ACC will play its conference tournament in Greensboro, N.C., in 2015 and Washington, D.C., in 2016. But after adding new members this season (Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Notre Dame), the ACC had been eyeing New York City. Coaches and school officials have been talking about the possibility for more than a year. With Madison Square Garden locked up in a long-term deal with the Big East, the ACC turned its attention toward the Barclays Center.
The Atlantic 10 will move its postseason tournament out of Brooklyn for 2017-2018 and return to the Barclays Center from 2019-2021, according to the person with knowledge of the situation. The person also confirmed that there will be a series of ACC-A-10 doubleheaders at the Barclays Center.
The A-10 is looking at possibly moving its tournament to Washington, D.C., or Pittsburgh for 2017-18, another person with knowledge of the situation told USA TODAY Sports earlier this month.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc ... r/6862583/
I saw elsewhere that it might be a 3 year deal for out of conference matchups, but no confirmation in this article.
Meanwhile the Big East is losing coaches left and right, has no one in the sweet 16, and sits at 10 teams, a terrible number that will ensure a lot of middle pf the pack teams with few if any making rankings. Our competitors (A-10) are making agressive moves. Where is Val Ackerman? Again I hope she proves me wrong this off season and going forward, but we can't sit around on our hands waiting for good things to happen. The Big East must move to get AT LEAST 2 more programs (I'd aim to add 4, phasing them in over the next couple of years). I would also aim to poach at least 1 or more of them from the A-10. Also the Big East should work with Fox to fix the schedule and tip off times that several of the BE coaches complained about this season. Lastly, isn't Fox also partnered with the PAC 12? How about an annual Big East vs Pac 12 Challenge in the early going to ensure some good OOC games and TV exposure for both?
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
Posted:
Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:25 pmby ivet
we should just win games plain and simple.
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:32 pmby LeMoyne00
Where is Val, she's sitting in her office down the hall from the other two Big East employees in the mostly undecorated/unfurnished conference office space we're borrowing from the conference's attorney.
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:33 pmby stever20
I think part of the problem with fox is with only 10 teams, and the volume they need, the fixes that the coaches want realisticly can't happen. Fox needs a number of 9pm tip times. As long as we have 10 teams, we're going to be seeing schedules very similar to what we had this year.
I think also maybe what happens is given where we were maybe mid-late Feb, where 5 teams seemed to be a very real possibility, with possibly no one in a PIG even, the way March played out was a surprise to the presidents. Especially how Nova and especially Creighton got beat in the NCAA tourney. I think the presidents quite frankly were very surprised at how little respect Xavier and Providence got- Xavier the next to last team in, Providence not getting in unless they win the auto bid(and they were the 3rd/4th place teams). Also with Buzz leaving Marquette for a bad VT job, and now Mack looking at WF. Also the poor TV ratings, regardless of how old FS1 was had to be a surprise at best.
I really think the next few months will prove fascinating to see how the schools react here. Do the presidents act like nothing is wrong, and this past year/month was just a blip? Or are they proactive? It's a really interesting question, and one that could tell the tale of how good the new Big East will be long term.
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:45 pmby billyjack
We boxed the ACC out of Manhattan, so they had to make a deal with the A-10, something the ACC didn't want to do.
Coach K last week picked a fight with the A-10, then the ACC went 0-2 against them, something the ACC didn't want to happen.
Now the ACC is forced into Clemson vs St Bonaventure and Boston College vs George Mason, something that the ACC gains nothing from (except access to Brooklyn because we've boxed them out of Manhattan).
The ACC is so overanxious to get into NYC (because of us and the quality of the BET), that they let the A-10 put the ACC's nuts in a vice.
How does this make the Big East look bad...?
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:48 pmby dmac80
glass half full billyjack and good points, but you didn't address any of the others issues I brought up.
I continue to be astounded by those who enjoy the novelty of home and away round robin with 10 teams but think having 1 or 2 dominant teams with 5 stuck at .500 in conference is a ticket to exposure, rankings, and tourney invites. As it has its downsides, we have seen what having a larger league does for invites and rankings. Not to mention will help with filling MSG in March. You need the top half to cream the bottom half. I think 12-14 teams (all with non FBS football of course and carefully selecting the final 2 or 4) is what the doctor ordered.
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:57 pmby X Factor
This conference has been together all of one season. You act like the next five are going to be just like this one.
We need teams to recruit the best players possible, win a lot of OOC games, and be competitive once the conference games begin. Everything else will take care of itself.
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:57 pmby billyjack
dmac80 wrote:glass half full billyjack and good points, but you didn't address any of the others issues I brought up.
I continue to be astounded by those who enjoy the novelty of home and away round robin with 10 teams but think having 1 or 2 dominant teams with 5 stuck at .500 in conference is a ticket to exposure, rankings, and tourney invites. As it has its downsides, we have seen what having a larger league does for invites and rankings. Not to mention will help with filling MSG in March. You need the top half to cream the bottom half. I think 12-14 teams (all with non FBS football of course and carefully selecting the final 2 or 4) is what the doctor ordered.
I agree that the Big East should be proactive in areas... there are a lot of great options... expansion might be one of them, especially like you mentioned to continue fill MSG with great fanbases (UD, VCU, SLU, whatever)... a Pac-12/BE challenge like someone said might be another... I think there are a lot of "correct" answers to choose from...
One thing I've noticed is that the BE is pretty low key but still effective... the ACC is full of bluster and spin and falls in chicken poop a lot...
Actually, I think a good step that we could do tomorrow (figuratively) is that we (the fans even) should start a PR arm for the Big East...
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:02 pmby gosports1
dmac80 wrote:ACC tournament to go to Barclays Center in Brooklyn in 2017-18The deal is done, and the ACC tournament is coming to the Barclays Center in Brooklyn for 2017 and 2018, a person with direct knowledge of the agreement told USA TODAY Sports.
The Barclays Center is expected to hold a news conference to announce the news on Wednesday.
Currently, the Atlantic 10 hosts its postseason tournament at the Barclays Center and had been under contract with the venue to host it there through 2017. The ACC will play its conference tournament in Greensboro, N.C., in 2015 and Washington, D.C., in 2016. But after adding new members this season (Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Notre Dame), the ACC had been eyeing New York City. Coaches and school officials have been talking about the possibility for more than a year. With Madison Square Garden locked up in a long-term deal with the Big East, the ACC turned its attention toward the Barclays Center.
The Atlantic 10 will move its postseason tournament out of Brooklyn for 2017-2018 and return to the Barclays Center from 2019-2021, according to the person with knowledge of the situation. The person also confirmed that there will be a series of ACC-A-10 doubleheaders at the Barclays Center.
The A-10 is looking at possibly moving its tournament to Washington, D.C., or Pittsburgh for 2017-18, another person with knowledge of the situation told USA TODAY Sports earlier this month.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc ... r/6862583/
I saw elsewhere that it might be a 3 year deal for out of conference matchups, but no confirmation in this article.
Meanwhile the Big East is losing coaches left and right, has no one in the sweet 16, and sits at 10 teams, a terrible number that will ensure a lot of middle pf the pack teams with few if any making rankings. Our competitors (A-10) are making agressive moves. Where is Val Ackerman? Again I hope she proves me wrong this off season and going forward, but we can't sit around on our hands waiting for good things to happen. The Big East must move to get AT LEAST 2 more programs (I'd aim to add 4, phasing them in over the next couple of years). I would also aim to poach at least 1 or more of them from the A-10. Also the Big East should work with Fox to fix the schedule and tip off times that several of the BE coaches complained about this season. Lastly, isn't Fox also partnered with the PAC 12? How about an annual Big East vs Pac 12 Challenge in the early going to ensure some good OOC games and TV exposure for both?
Have i missed somthing? what coach other than williams has left the BE?
Re: ACC and A-10 make a deal
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Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:47 pmby hailjesus
dmac80 wrote:The Big East must move to get AT LEAST 2 more programs (I'd aim to add 4, phasing them in over the next couple of years). I would also aim to poach at least 1 or more of them from the A-10. Also the Big East should work with Fox to fix the schedule and tip off times that several of the BE coaches complained about this season. Lastly, isn't Fox also partnered with the PAC 12? How about an annual Big East vs Pac 12 Challenge in the early going to ensure some good OOC games and TV exposure for both?
Not sure what this fixation is with adding more teams as if it is going to fix the conference woes. The Big12 has 10 teams as well, and got 7 into the dance. The Big10 has 12 teams and got 6. The issue isn't the number of teams, it's the quality.
Make sure everybody is playing at a high level before starting to water down the product even further...