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Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:23 pm
by HoosierPal

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:47 pm
by ta111
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014 ... erformance
Along the same lines. Interesting article.

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:14 pm
by EMT
No. PC is hovering around the number but obviously in the NCAAs this year, unlike UConn last year. This is as low as it will go.

These are the repercussions of the disastrous Keno Davis era. We had to boot kids out of school and clean some house. This year will have 4 seniors graduate and everyone is in good academic standing.

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:52 pm
by dmac80
This is not new info. The prior regime at PC had significant problems that are still working through the system due to the four year avg. Cooley has a couple of issues early on as well but I read on one of our boards that number should improve significantly next year.

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:06 pm
by HoosierPal
EMT wrote:No. PC is hovering around the number but obviously in the NCAAs this year, unlike UConn last year. This is as low as it will go.

These are the repercussions of the disastrous Keno Davis era. We had to boot kids out of school and clean some house. This year will have 4 seniors graduate and everyone is in good academic standing.



Thanks for the good news on this issue. Academics are more important than any basketball wins and losses.

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:41 pm
by ChelseaFriar
HoosierPal wrote:
Thanks for the good news on this issue. Academics are more important than any basketball wins and losses.



That's why Keno Davis was fired. Order of reasons why Davis got canned:

1) Off the court player legal issues
2) Bad academics
3) Didn't win basketball games.

Cooley was shocked at how bad things were when he took the PC job. He said he knew it was bad, but it was even worse than he anticipated once he peeled back a few layers.

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:10 am
by aughnanure
I remember when Tom Crean left in 2008 and Keno Davis was one of the hot names talked about to replace him here...whew, dodged a bullet there.

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:39 am
by SJHooper
PC is a great academic school in the same breath as Nova. I have a family member who went there for undergrad and Columbia for grad school and said that PC work was harder.

But players on the other hand are totally different. You can get into Notre Dame with a 3rd grade reading level. Just be able to throw a football extremely well.

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:51 am
by Edrick
HoosierPal wrote:
EMT wrote:No. PC is hovering around the number but obviously in the NCAAs this year, unlike UConn last year. This is as low as it will go.

These are the repercussions of the disastrous Keno Davis era. We had to boot kids out of school and clean some house. This year will have 4 seniors graduate and everyone is in good academic standing.



Thanks for the good news on this issue. Academics are more important than any basketball wins and losses.


No they aren't. It is a basketball programs role to win basketball games and generate cash flow for the university. It owes its players the best opportunity to be successful in school. Like any student, the onus is on them to succeed (or not)

Basketball programs are a business - period. They need eligible players, the level above eligibility is up to the player himself.

Re: Is Providence Below NCAA APR Standard?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:44 am
by SJHooper
Basketball players at the Big East level save for the rare exception (like Godsgift) are not real students. They are there to play basketball and nothing more. Most of these kids have tutors do work for them or take Africana Studies, Sociology, or Communications classes so they have a joke workload and can concentrate on hoops while still doing just enough to be considered a student.

I saw it at MAAC schools, but especially in the Big East once you get to that level. Some of the players don't even show up once in their classes because they take "online" classes and have others handle everything for them. Like I said, there's a rare exception every once in a while, but most Big East starters are in the same boat as I described.