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How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby Bill Marsh » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:34 pm

Villanova and Creighton are obviously already in the tournament. After tonight's Georgetown win, here's how many more wins each team needs to get in according to RPI Forecast:

1 - Xavier
2 - Georgetown
2/3 - Providence
3 - St. John's
4 - Marquette

The rest would need to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. It's interesting that there are 5 teams that still have a shot to get a bid without winning the tourney next week.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby stever20 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:44 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:Villanova and Creighton are obviously already in the tournament. After tonight's Georgetown win, here's how many more wins each team needs to get in according to RPI Forecast:

1 - Xavier
2 - Georgetown
2/3 - Providence
3 - St. John's
4 - Marquette

The rest would need to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. It's interesting that there are 5 teams that still have a shot to get a bid without winning the tourney next week.

Xavier agree with.
Georgetown agree with. will have to beat either Villanova or in the BET QF vs Creighton probable.
Providence- 2 if they beat Creighton, 3 otherwise.
St Johns- 3
Marquette- 3 would be awfully probable to me.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby Bill Marsh » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:01 pm

stever20 wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:Villanova and Creighton are obviously already in the tournament. After tonight's Georgetown win, here's how many more wins each team needs to get in according to RPI Forecast:

1 - Xavier
2 - Georgetown
2/3 - Providence
3 - St. John's
4 - Marquette

The rest would need to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. It's interesting that there are 5 teams that still have a shot to get a bid without winning the tourney next week.

Xavier agree with.
Georgetown agree with. will have to beat either Villanova or in the BET QF vs Creighton probable.
Providence- 2 if they beat Creighton, 3 otherwise.
St Johns- 3
Marquette- 3 would be awfully probable to me.


An unlikely win over Creighton would obviously be huge for Providence, but a win tonight plus a win in the tournament boosts SOS with 2 tournament games. SOS boosts RPI even with a loss to Villanoba or Creighton in the tournament. So, there is. A path for them to get a bid without a Creighton win depending on how everything else falls into place.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby stever20 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:16 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
stever20 wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:Villanova and Creighton are obviously already in the tournament. After tonight's Georgetown win, here's how many more wins each team needs to get in according to RPI Forecast:

1 - Xavier
2 - Georgetown
2/3 - Providence
3 - St. John's
4 - Marquette

The rest would need to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. It's interesting that there are 5 teams that still have a shot to get a bid without winning the tourney next week.

Xavier agree with.
Georgetown agree with. will have to beat either Villanova or in the BET QF vs Creighton probable.
Providence- 2 if they beat Creighton, 3 otherwise.
St Johns- 3
Marquette- 3 would be awfully probable to me.


An unlikely win over Creighton would obviously be huge for Providence, but a win tonight plus a win in the tournament boosts SOS with 2 tournament games. SOS boosts RPI even with a loss to Villanoba or Creighton in the tournament. So, there is. A path for them to get a bid without a Creighton win depending on how everything else falls into place.

It would be really close. Things like tonight Baylor beating Iowa St doesn't help them at all. PC would play the winner of Marquette/St John's in 1st rd of the BET.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby Bill Marsh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:26 am

Bill Marsh wrote:Villanova and Creighton are obviously already in the tournament. After tonight's Georgetown win, here's how many more wins each team needs to get in according to RPI Forecast:

1 - Xavier
2 - Georgetown
2/3 - Providence
3 - St. John's
4 - Marquette

The rest would need to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. It's interesting that there are 5 teams that still have a shot to get a bid without winning the tourney next week.


Tonight's win cuts PC's number of wins needed to 1 or 2 depending on what else happens. Personally, I think that if they get one more win, they're in.

For Marquette, this was a missed opportunity. The loss throws them into the category of needing to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. Anything short of that and I don't think they can make it.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:42 am

Bill Marsh wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:Villanova and Creighton are obviously already in the tournament. After tonight's Georgetown win, here's how many more wins each team needs to get in according to RPI Forecast:

1 - Xavier
2 - Georgetown
2/3 - Providence
3 - St. John's
4 - Marquette

The rest would need to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. It's interesting that there are 5 teams that still have a shot to get a bid without winning the tourney next week.


Tonight's win cuts PC's number of wins needed to 1 or 2 depending on what else happens. Personally, I think that if they get one more win, they're in.

For Marquette, this was a missed opportunity. The loss throws them into the category of needing to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. Anything short of that and I don't think they can make it.

Still think PC needs 2. They need 1 more big name win.

For Marquette- they still need 4. actually could be 3- if all 3 are in NYC.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby WaitingPatiently » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:51 am

stever20 wrote:Still think PC needs 2. They need 1 more big name win.

For Marquette- they still need 4. actually could be 3- if all 3 are in NYC.


There's no way for Marquette to get 4 without winning the BET.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby Bill Marsh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:58 am

stever20 wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:Villanova and Creighton are obviously already in the tournament. After tonight's Georgetown win, here's how many more wins each team needs to get in according to RPI Forecast:

1 - Xavier
2 - Georgetown
2/3 - Providence
3 - St. John's
4 - Marquette

The rest would need to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. It's interesting that there are 5 teams that still have a shot to get a bid without winning the tourney next week.


Tonight's win cuts PC's number of wins needed to 1 or 2 depending on what else happens. Personally, I think that if they get one more win, they're in.

For Marquette, this was a missed opportunity. The loss throws them into the category of needing to win the Big East tournament to get a bid. Anything short of that and I don't think they can make it.


Still think PC needs 2. They need 1 more big name win.

For Marquette- they still need 4. actually could be 3- if all 3 are in NYC.


That's the point about Marquette. The only way they play 4 more games is to win the tournament.

RPI Forecast projects them with an RPI of 52 if they get one more win in the BE tourney. Theoretically that should be good for the last bid since right now there are 16 conference leaders in the top 52. However, one upset in a conference tournament would immediately change that, so they'd be skating on awfully thin ice with just that one win. It's hard to imagine them coming up with 2 more wins, so I'm guessing that they'll have to take care of business in MSG and take their chances from there.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:09 am

PC's problem though could wind up being only 1 top 50 win(if Xavier goes into the tank). still think those OT losses they had earlier in the season will really come back to bite them....
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby redmen9194 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:57 am

21 wins is the number for X, Providence and the Johnnies.
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