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This Saturday Marquette(17) will be playing Ohio State(10) at home in what will be the first collegiate basketball game ever aired on Fox. Should be a pretty good game.

http://youtu.be/BVwWjEj6QQY

I was trying to remember this past week if I ever saw an NCAA game on FOX before, but that is crazy that this will be the first. Would be a huge win for the conference. Anyone know what the spread is?
Much of the cupcake OOC with BE teams were set prior to realignment. I think we will see better home & home games with big names in the future, and hopefully we will see more games on the Fox channel.

bman95 wrote:I was trying to remember this past week if I ever saw an NCAA game on FOX before, but that is crazy that this will be the first. Would be a huge win for the conference. Anyone know what the spread is?
Much of the cupcake OOC with BE teams were set prior to realignment. I think we will see better home & home games with big names in the future, and hopefully we will see more games on the Fox channel.

The only thing is the model college basketball is following generally speaking now is a majority of the good OOC games are either neutral site dh's(like Tuesday's) or the exempt tournaments. May see like 1 or 2 good home and home type series, but other than that, it's not going to get a whole heck of a lot better.

look at Duke-
neutral site vs Kansas
Preseason NIT(home vs UNC Asheville then ECU or Norfolk St)
home vs Michigan in ACC/Big Ten Challenge
nuetral site vs UCLA

other than that-
Davidson
Florida Atlantic
Vermont
Gardner-Webb
Eastern Michigan
Elon

The start of College Basketball is essentially like the end of College Football. Big out-of-conference games at neutral sites in big cities/destination sites.

I think it's good and helps draw interest. Hopefully the Big East gets in on more of these (Georgetown played KU or Mizzou in Kansas City a few years back).

aughnanure wrote:The start of College Basketball is essentially like the end of College Football. Big out-of-conference games at neutral sites in big cities/destination sites.

I think it's good and helps draw interest. Hopefully the Big East gets in on more of these (Georgetown played KU or Mizzou in Kansas City a few years back).

Totally agree. Not just the individual games- but also those exempt tournaments. Gone are the days of the home and home series in large part.

problem is outside of Georgetown/Marquette- not many games would they be really interested in us.

stever20 wrote:

aughnanure wrote:The start of College Basketball is essentially like the end of College Football. Big out-of-conference games at neutral sites in big cities/destination sites.

I think it's good and helps draw interest. Hopefully the Big East gets in on more of these (Georgetown played KU or Mizzou in Kansas City a few years back).

Totally agree. Not just the individual games- but also those exempt tournaments. Gone are the days of the home and home series in large part.

problem is outside of Georgetown/Marquette- not many games would they be really interested in us.

Come on, Villanova still has a national name. Outside of Kansas, what team would really interest the Big East in the Big XII? It depends on the year. Obviously Ok State is a story, the same way Creighton and the Dougies are this year. Marquette plays New Mexico in Vegas this year. No, not every game can be against Kentucky, Indiana, KU, Duke, etc (only so many games they can play)...but Oregon, Tennessee, New Mexico, Arkansas, Stanford, Wisconsin, Illinois, Vanderbilt type programs will definitely be interested in games against Nova, St John's, Xavier, etc. Now, if you can set up something like they did with the Champions Classic where you do 2 big games at a destination site that would be ideal and draw more interest to what is more likely to be Top 10-30 matchups.

A Marquette-Illinois, Xavier-Arkansas line-up would be a big doubleheader almost every year.

aughnanure wrote:

stever20 wrote:

aughnanure wrote:The start of College Basketball is essentially like the end of College Football. Big out-of-conference games at neutral sites in big cities/destination sites.

I think it's good and helps draw interest. Hopefully the Big East gets in on more of these (Georgetown played KU or Mizzou in Kansas City a few years back).

Totally agree. Not just the individual games- but also those exempt tournaments. Gone are the days of the home and home series in large part.

problem is outside of Georgetown/Marquette- not many games would they be really interested in us.

Come on, Villanova still has a national name. Outside of Kansas, what team would really interest the Big East in the Big XII? It depends on the year. Obviously Ok State is a story, the same way Creighton and the Dougies are this year. Marquette plays New Mexico in Vegas this year. No, not every game can be against Kentucky, Indiana, KU, Duke, etc (only so many games they can play)...but Oregon, Tennessee, New Mexico, Arkansas, Stanford, Wisconsin, Illinois, Vanderbilt type programs will definitely be interested in games against Nova, St John's, Xavier, etc. Now, if you can set up something like they did with the Champions Classic where you do 2 big games at a destination site that would be ideal and draw more interest to what is more likely to be Top 10-30 matchups.

A Marquette-Illinois, Xavier-Arkansas line-up would be a big doubleheader almost every year.

I don't know how much a Xavier/Arkansas game would be viewed positively. Arkansas isn't in that 2nd tier now in my mind at all. I think that list you gave- some are 2nd tier- but some are more 3rd tier. I mean Arkansas and Wisconsin aren't in the same stratosphere at all. Wisconsin and Florida yes- they're in the same boat. I think the only 2 that are in that Wisconsin/Florida boat are Marquette and Georgetown right now.

stever20 wrote:

aughnanure wrote:

stever20 wrote:Totally agree. Not just the individual games- but also those exempt tournaments. Gone are the days of the home and home series in large part.

problem is outside of Georgetown/Marquette- not many games would they be really interested in us.

Come on, Villanova still has a national name. Outside of Kansas, what team would really interest the Big East in the Big XII? It depends on the year. Obviously Ok State is a story, the same way Creighton and the Dougies are this year. Marquette plays New Mexico in Vegas this year. No, not every game can be against Kentucky, Indiana, KU, Duke, etc (only so many games they can play)...but Oregon, Tennessee, New Mexico, Arkansas, Stanford, Wisconsin, Illinois, Vanderbilt type programs will definitely be interested in games against Nova, St John's, Xavier, etc. Now, if you can set up something like they did with the Champions Classic where you do 2 big games at a destination site that would be ideal and draw more interest to what is more likely to be Top 10-30 matchups.

A Marquette-Illinois, Xavier-Arkansas line-up would be a big doubleheader almost every year.

I don't know how much a Xavier/Arkansas game would be viewed positively. Arkansas isn't in that 2nd tier now in my mind at all. I think that list you gave- some are 2nd tier- but some are more 3rd tier. I mean Arkansas and Wisconsin aren't in the same stratosphere at all. Wisconsin and Florida yes- they're in the same boat. I think the only 2 that are in that Wisconsin/Florida boat are Marquette and Georgetown right now.

Yes, Arkansas has a better national name than Wisconsin and their fans are nuts about basketball. That's what being amazing for a decade does for your program and brand, and you can't take it away from them.

And seriously, comparing Wisconsin to Florida as names???????!?!?!?!?!

no flipping way. Arkansas hasn't had a 20 win season even in 5 years. Look at their OOC schedule this year. They are in Maui Invitational as one of the other teams. They have a home game with Clemson. That's their OOC schedule.

Now, let's look at Wisconsin. St John's, Florida, Virginia, Marqette- and Saint Louis. 4 pretty good teams and St John's. Wisconsin has done it for a decade plus now themselves, and they don't have the 5 year drought.

not even close there. Wisconsin is a whole hell of a lot closer to Florida than they are Arkansas.

Maybe it's being in the Midwest/Big 10 Country but I would MUCH rather play Wisconsin then Arkansas from an exposure/recognition/RPI standpoint. It isn't even remotely close.