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Omaha1 wrote:5 teams seems like a near lock at this point. Will be interesting to see if Hall can get a couple of upper echelon wins in league play and get a 6th bid.

Not an upper echelon win, but being a road game bumps last night’s St. John’s game up to a quad 1 win, I think. Regardless a road win against a top 100 team helps either way. After that win, The Hall is now at 47 on Ken Pom and were at 53 on the NET going into the game, which would make them a bubble team at worst. But there are a lot of games still to be played. And Seton Hall has a lot of experience on that roster: their top 8 players are all seniors & juniors. They will be a tough matchup going down the stretch.

Jasper67 wrote:

Omaha1 wrote:5 teams seems like a near lock at this point. Will be interesting to see if Hall can get a couple of upper echelon wins in league play and get a 6th bid.

Not an upper echelon win, but being a road game bumps last night’s St. John’s game up to a quad 1 win, I think. Regardless a road win against a top 100 team helps either way. After that win, The Hall is now at 47 on Ken Pom and we’re at 53 on the NET going into the game, which would make them a bubble team at worst. But there are a lot of games still to be played. And Seton Hall has a lot of experience on that roster: their top 8 players are all seniors & juniors. They will be a tough matchup going down the stretch.

I agree with you. When I left the Seton Hall - Creighton game earlier this season, my reaction was something along the lines of “Hall stinks”. Glad to see the improvement they have made.

Jasper67 wrote:

Omaha1 wrote:5 teams seems like a near lock at this point. Will be interesting to see if Hall can get a couple of upper echelon wins in league play and get a 6th bid.

Not an upper echelon win, but being a road game bumps last night’s St. John’s game up to a quad 1 win, I think. Regardless a road win against a top 100 team helps either way. After that win, The Hall is now at 47 on Ken Pom and were at 53 on the NET going into the game, which would make them a bubble team at worst. But there are a lot of games still to be played. And Seton Hall has a lot of experience on that roster: their top 8 players are all seniors & juniors. They will be a tough matchup going down the stretch.

St John's is only 96th so not a Q1 game.. Figure that won't get up to 75 which is when it would take to get St John's to a Q1 level on the road.

Seton Hall probably needs 1 big win. @ UConn, Creighton, Xavier(they get lucky that they play them in a few weeks, often times teams will be ok right after an injury like last night, but then as things go along, it really starts to show), and @ Providence.

2/2 bracketville

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/seed-list/

4 Marquette (14)
4 Xavier (14)
5 UCONN (17)
6 Providence (23)
8 Creighton (30)
Seton Hall 9th team out

Is Hall being slightly underrated here if Siena is assumed a tournament team? But the bubble doesn't feel "weak" at the moment.

stever20 wrote:

Jasper67 wrote:

Omaha1 wrote:5 teams seems like a near lock at this point. Will be interesting to see if Hall can get a couple of upper echelon wins in league play and get a 6th bid.

Not an upper echelon win, but being a road game bumps last night’s St. John’s game up to a quad 1 win, I think. Regardless a road win against a top 100 team helps either way. After that win, The Hall is now at 47 on Ken Pom and were at 53 on the NET going into the game, which would make them a bubble team at worst. But there are a lot of games still to be played. And Seton Hall has a lot of experience on that roster: their top 8 players are all seniors & juniors. They will be a tough matchup going down the stretch.

St John's is only 96th so not a Q1 game.. Figure that won't get up to 75 which is when it would take to get St John's to a Q1 level on the road.

Seton Hall probably needs 1 big win. @ UConn, Creighton, Xavier(they get lucky that they play them in a few weeks, often times teams will be ok right after an injury like last night, but then as things go along, it really starts to show), and @ Providence.

I thought that playing a team on the road could bump it up to a Q1 if they were close. Am I wrong?

kayako wrote:2/2 bracketville

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/seed-list/

4 Marquette (14)
4 Xavier (14)
5 UCONN (17)
6 Providence (23)
8 Creighton (30)
Seton Hall 9th team out

Is Hall being slightly underrated here if Siena is assumed a tournament team? But the bubble doesn't feel "weak" at the moment.

Siena is in as a conference champion.

Seton Hall has another "must win" just to keep themselves alive game against DePaul on Sunday before the tone finally changes when Creighton visits. That's a game they "can afford to lose" for a change, but it changes everything if they win (and don't lose to DePaul).

Hall2012 wrote:Seton Hall has another "must win" just to keep themselves alive game against DePaul on Sunday before the tone finally changes when Creighton visits. That's a game they "can afford to lose" for a change, but it changes everything if they win (and don't lose to DePaul).

Seton Hall has been playing really well lately, winning 6 of their last 7 and 7 of their last 9 with wins over UConn and at St. John’s in that stretch. They also have the earlier road win over Rutgers to show what they’re capable of. I expect them to beat DePaul. Unfortunately for them Creighton has also raised their game lately. Nonetheless I expect that to be a close game. Creighton will be favored, but you never know.

Jasper67 wrote:

Hall2012 wrote:Seton Hall has another "must win" just to keep themselves alive game against DePaul on Sunday before the tone finally changes when Creighton visits. That's a game they "can afford to lose" for a change, but it changes everything if they win (and don't lose to DePaul).

Seton Hall has been playing really well lately, winning 6 of their last 7 and 7 of their last 9 with wins over UConn and at St. John’s in that stretch. They also have the earlier road win over Rutgers to show what they’re capable of. I expect them to beat DePaul. Unfortunately for them Creighton has also raised their game lately. Nonetheless I expect that to be a close game. Creighton will be favored, but you never know.

Seton Hall has won 7 of 9, but 6 of those 7 wins have come against the "bottom 4" while they're still 0-fer against the "top 4."

Realistically, they need to get a win against the top 4 while keeping the record vs the bottom 4 perfect. Creighton's the remaining top 4 team that I least expect SHU to beat because they're simply a bad matchup with nobody big enough to guard Kalk 1 on 1.

X is probably the one they're most likely to beat, having already played them to the wire in Cincy and with Freemantle now out.

Ultimately, they could likely be left regretting choking away that Providence game at home.

Bracketville from today
4 Xavier (14)
4 Marquette (15)
4 UConn (16)
6 Creighton (24)
7 Providence (26)

Seton Hall 4th team out