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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby stever20 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:40 pm

New Mexico St gets #60 and the 20th auto bid to the tourney(despite their bracketology- don't have La Tech in).
A10-most recent GW #63 6th- 5 teams left
BE- most recent Marquette #64 6th- 5 teams left
P12- most recent Washington #65 7th- 6 teams left
MW- most recent New Mexico #67 3rd- 2 teams left
ACC- most recent NC State #70 10th- 9 teams left
WCC- most recent San Francisco #71 3rd- 2 teams left
AAC- most recent Temple #72 6th- 5 teams left
B12- most recent Kansas St #79 8th- 7 teams left
SEC- most recent LSU #80 7th- 6 teams left
B10- most recent Purdue #105 11th- 10 teams left

So to kind of expand on what was said earlier- the P5 have 38 teams that are candidates now(I think the slightly lower number is that this is giving the SEC 6 teams as candidates, rather than the other with 11. ACC is also 2 up, P12 is 2 up.

I'm not so sure that a Belmont would be left out. I think they would take it to about 20 conferences, and I think the OVC would make it rather easily quite frankly. Ivy would be interesting. My thought is that all 10 fbs conferences would be in and then the top FCS ones- Big Sky, CAA, MVC, OVC, and maybe the Southern. Then add A10, Big East and WCC and you are at 18. Maybe 2 more and you have 20.

So 59 teams left- with 12 auto bids left and 36 at larges, down to 11 at larges left. GW was 12th team out, and Marquette 13th. I'd say next week or so things get real interesting as some bubble teams really start popping up now. Especially as we get into this weekend and this time next week when if no more auto bids are done, we get announced the 5th team out. And like I said earlier- teams now- difference between someone at 11th team out and 11th team in is like 1-2- maybe 3 games.
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby hoyahooligan » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:13 am

ESPN released a Future top 25 power ranking of which teams are best set up for the future
Xavier 17th
Villanova 18th
Georgetown 24th

other non power 5

Gonzaga 12th
Uconn 14th
San Diego St 19th
Harvard 20th
UNLV 22nd
Memphis 23rd
VCU 25th

Looks like the BE and the non power 5 are here to stay with almost half of the top 25 falling outside of the P5.
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby stever20 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:27 am

hoyahooligan wrote:ESPN released a Future top 25 power ranking of which teams are best set up for the future
Xavier 17th
Villanova 18th
Georgetown 24th

other non power 5

Gonzaga 12th
Uconn 14th
San Diego St 19th
Harvard 20th
UNLV 22nd
Memphis 23rd
VCU 25th

Looks like the BE and the non power 5 are here to stay with almost half of the top 25 falling outside of the P5.

just amazing that BYU not on that list.

Also would note that it's not for the entire future- but rather just the next 3 years. Why you see a harvard on there quite frankly.
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby stever20 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:49 am

Baylor checks in as #59, 11th team out, 7th in Big 12. They lost a lot of key players from a team that 2-3 weeks to go in the season was a clear cut bubble team. Maybe seems a smidge high quite frankly. Just seeing them and even to some degree Marquette at #64 makes me think the bubble seems a smidge weaker than normal this season. Not that it was all that strong last season quite frankly.
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby SJHooper » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:26 pm

Good to see…and I think Marquette will be fine as well. Wojo seems to have no trouble getting top talent to keep coming there. I also think Creighton will take a step back but they will be a good team many years once they reload. PC has finally pushed over the top to realize the talent it had all along and that will help their recruiting. Butler can only go up. SJU has struggled even in a 20 win year and I think Lavin will be fired once we miss the tourney yet again this year. Hopefully whoever replaces him can recruit and also coach players up.

Also, you have SHU finally bringing in top recruits, plus DePaul is getting a new arena and had the ROY. This year might not be our most competitive but give it another year or 2 and we should have 3-4 teams ranked.
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:21 am

Indiana 58 and 10th in the Big Ten. That won't sit well in Hoosierville, but hard to see them doing much better.
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby stever20 » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:36 am

Wizard of Westroads wrote:Indiana 58 and 10th in the Big Ten. That won't sit well in Hoosierville, but hard to see them doing much better.


Another one that just doesn't seem that good. Man, if this list is how it is- going to be a pretty thin bubble quite frankly.

I'm just stoked we're getting down into the 50's now. basketball season getting closer and closer. 9 weeks from today is opening night(as late as it can possibly be).
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby stever20 » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:06 pm

Providence checks in at #56, and the 8th team out. Just ahead of Rhode Island. 5th in the Big East.
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/9760

so they have
Providence 5 56
Marquette 6 64
Creighton 7 85
St John's 8 98

With I'm assuming Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, and Seton Hall left to go and Butler and DePaul not in the top 144.
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby stever20 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:18 pm

ACC- most recent Florida State #54 9th- 8 teams left
SEC- most recent Georgia #55 6th- 5 teams left
BE- most recent Providence #56 5th- 4 teams left
A10- most recent Rhode Island #57- 5th- 4 teams left
B10- most recent Indiana #58 10th- 9 teams left
B12- most recent Baylor #59 7th- 6 teams left
P12- most recent Washington #65 7th- 6 teams left
MW- most recent New Mexico #67 3rd- 2 teams left
ACC- most recent NC State #70 10th- 9 teams left
WCC- most recent San Francisco #71 3rd- 2 teams left
AAC- most recent Temple #72 6th- 5 teams left

Georgia(7th) and Florida St(6th) next 2 teams on the 2nd 4 out.

boy looking at the ACC- if this is true- ACC with at most 9 tourney teams- got a way to go to match the old Big East.
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Re: College Basketball Countdown

Postby SJHooper » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:26 pm

PC at #56? Wow. I'm sure a lot of it is because they just won the BET, but is anyone aware that Bryce Cotton aka the guy I watched score at or around 30 points almost every game I saw him is now gone? PC has other nice pieces but I see PC as more of a #75-80 ish squad this year. There seems to be a double standard with these people regarding SJ vs. other teams. Almost always the experts will expect a big drop from a team that just graduated their stud star player (Cotton) and expect the same level of play or perhaps better if they return their leading scorer and almost every other key player as veterans (SJ).

Not that I can blame them though…I think the reason so many are down on SJ is because the team simply doesn't give you results to match the talent. With Creighton (McDermott/Gibbs/Wragge), PC (Cotton), and Xavier (Semaj) all weaker/much weaker losing their best players, not sure how SJ is picked 30 something slots worse than a team like PC.

I know this SJ team has failed to deliver to its potential, but with so many upperclassmen and one of the best groups of guards in the country, I just can't see them falling off a cliff like experts and many on here seem to believe. As a SJ fan I've learned to expect nothing, but there's always that other side of my head that says "maybe this is the year it clicks like 2011". We shall see.
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