VCU vs UVA

[Xudash]

Dayton is terrible and their fans are worse. If Dayton is added to the Big East we will take two steps backwards.

Exactly.

Here's a quote from one of their delusional fans:

"I've decided that we should turn down an invite to the New Crappier Big East if they come begging. They are going to be a RPI boat anchor. And we can prevent our good name being associated with the gangster element in Cincinnati."

He's dead serious, because every post you read of his proves he's a buffoon. His jealousy of Xavier actually is a little disturbing; he's over the top with it. BTW, Dayton's center was kicked off the team due to rape-related issues, and has since been reinstated. That's the Dayton basketball program.

So, since we're all crappier, how do you guys feel about begging Dayton to join us? After all, we're going to be a boat anchor for their program.

[BEX]

Dayton sucks. No resume. They think beating Gt is some kind of huge win. They're picked to finish in the bottom of the SEC! Get a grip and win your conf. once in a blue moon.

[Bill Marsh]

Dayton sucks. No resume. They think beating Gt is some kind of huge win. They're picked to finish in the bottom of the SEC! Get a grip and win your conf. once in a blue moon.

First of all, Georgia Tech isn't in the SEC; they're in the ACC.

Second, I've seen them picked to finish 9th in the ACC (College Sports Madness), which is middle of the pack in the best basketball conference in the country. That put them at 70th in the country and projected them for an NIT bid. That's a good team. Beating them by 10 points on the road is a good win for Dayton.

[Bob Loblaw]

VCU obviously not good enough to be invited. Discuss.

[Jet915]

VCU obviously not good enough to be invited. Discuss.

Thanks, 2 losses probably would have kept them away from this board for awhile, now you've invited them back!

[Lavinwood]

VCU is good but overrated. They are a borderline top 25 team, not a top 10 team. FSU blasted them. Dayton is an ugly program. The biggest reason I've heard for wanting them to come is their big fan base…who cares? They don't ever make lots of noise. Most people don't even know who they are. They are not a name brand school. I say keep it at 10 unless we can get UConn to house their FB program elsewhere then I'd take them and maybe the same with Cincy and Memphis. I think it would make sense for the traditional basketball powers of the AAC i.e. Memphis, Cincy, UConn to put their football in another conference and join us for hoops. The ACC can't take all of them. So at least 1 of those teams will be left behind.

[stever20]

VCU is good but overrated. They are a borderline top 25 team, not a top 10 team. FSU blasted them. Dayton is an ugly program. The biggest reason I've heard for wanting them to come is their big fan base…who cares? They don't ever make lots of noise. Most people don't even know who they are. They are not a name brand school. I say keep it at 10 unless we can get UConn to house their FB program elsewhere then I'd take them and maybe the same with Cincy and Memphis. I think it would make sense for the traditional basketball powers of the AAC i.e. Memphis, Cincy, UConn to put their football in another conference and join us for hoops. The ACC can't take all of them. So at least 1 of those teams will be left behind.

I think VCU is overrated at 10, but they're definitely a top 25 team. Since they made the final 4- they've gone 4-6 vs top 25 teams. Not great- but look at BE records vs top 25 in those seasons
Butler 3-5
Creighton 1-2
DePaul 0-12
Georgetown 12-6
Marquette 9-9
Providence 3-9
Seton Hall 2-11
St John's 3-18
Nova 4-9
Xavier 3-3

Really only Georgetown and Marquette way better.

There's no chance that any of those AAC schools will be in the Big East. None. They won't move down their program to the MAC/CUSA- and AAC won't allow them to be football only(neither would CUSA for sure).

[Lavinwood]

VCU is good but overrated. They are a borderline top 25 team, not a top 10 team. FSU blasted them. Dayton is an ugly program. The biggest reason I've heard for wanting them to come is their big fan base…who cares? They don't ever make lots of noise. Most people don't even know who they are. They are not a name brand school. I say keep it at 10 unless we can get UConn to house their FB program elsewhere then I'd take them and maybe the same with Cincy and Memphis. I think it would make sense for the traditional basketball powers of the AAC i.e. Memphis, Cincy, UConn to put their football in another conference and join us for hoops. The ACC can't take all of them. So at least 1 of those teams will be left behind.

I think VCU is overrated at 10, but they're definitely a top 25 team. Since they made the final 4- they've gone 4-6 vs top 25 teams. Not great- but look at BE records vs top 25 in those seasons
Butler 3-5
Creighton 1-2
DePaul 0-12
Georgetown 12-6
Marquette 9-9
Providence 3-9
Seton Hall 2-11
St John's 3-18
Nova 4-9
Xavier 3-3

Really only Georgetown and Marquette way better.

There's no chance that any of those AAC schools will be in the Big East. None. They won't move down their program to the MAC/CUSA- and AAC won't allow them to be football only(neither would CUSA for sure).

So they'd rather play Houston, Tulane, UCF, SMU in basketball? I'm not so sure. Louisville and Rutgers are only there for this year. Once they leave they are a clear step below the Big East basketball wise. UConn basketball outside of the Big East or ACC is just not the same. Their football is dreadful. It's not out of the realm of possibilities.

[stever20]

VCU is good but overrated. They are a borderline top 25 team, not a top 10 team. FSU blasted them. Dayton is an ugly program. The biggest reason I've heard for wanting them to come is their big fan base…who cares? They don't ever make lots of noise. Most people don't even know who they are. They are not a name brand school. I say keep it at 10 unless we can get UConn to house their FB program elsewhere then I'd take them and maybe the same with Cincy and Memphis. I think it would make sense for the traditional basketball powers of the AAC i.e. Memphis, Cincy, UConn to put their football in another conference and join us for hoops. The ACC can't take all of them. So at least 1 of those teams will be left behind.

I think VCU is overrated at 10, but they're definitely a top 25 team. Since they made the final 4- they've gone 4-6 vs top 25 teams. Not great- but look at BE records vs top 25 in those seasons
Butler 3-5
Creighton 1-2
DePaul 0-12
Georgetown 12-6
Marquette 9-9
Providence 3-9
Seton Hall 2-11
St John's 3-18
Nova 4-9
Xavier 3-3

Really only Georgetown and Marquette way better.

There's no chance that any of those AAC schools will be in the Big East. None. They won't move down their program to the MAC/CUSA- and AAC won't allow them to be football only(neither would CUSA for sure).

So they'd rather play Houston, Tulane, UCF, SMU in basketball? I'm not so sure. Louisville and Rutgers are only there for this year. Once they leave they are a clear step below the Big East basketball wise. UConn basketball outside of the Big East or ACC is just not the same. Their football is dreadful. It's not out of the realm of possibilities.

First off- Rutgers leaving is a good thing for them! Remember- they NEVER made the NCAA tourney out of the Big East. SMU may make the tournament this year. The AAC is still going to be a major basketball conference after this year.

UConn is the one that I could see perhaps- but then again, with their hopes- I just don't even see it for them. For the others- especially Cincy- they aren't going to do suicide on their football program to move the basketball to the Big East. They just aren't. There is zero chance that the AAC would allow ANY of their programs to go fb only- allowing the basketball to go to the Big East. ZERO.

[Lavinwood]

So they'd rather play Houston, Tulane, UCF, SMU in basketball? I'm not so sure. Louisville and Rutgers are only there for this year. Once they leave they are a clear step below the Big East basketball wise. UConn basketball outside of the Big East or ACC is just not the same. Their football is dreadful. It's not out of the realm of possibilities.[/quote]
First off- Rutgers leaving is a good thing for them! Remember- they NEVER made the NCAA tourney out of the Big East. SMU may make the tournament this year. The AAC is still going to be a major basketball conference after this year.

UConn is the one that I could see perhaps- but then again, with their hopes- I just don't even see it for them. For the others- especially Cincy- they aren't going to do suicide on their football program to move the basketball to the Big East. They just aren't. There is zero chance that the AAC would allow ANY of their programs to go fb only- allowing the basketball to go to the Big East. ZERO.[/quote]

So they'd let their basketball suffer at the hands of football? Many of the schools there are much more known for their hoops i.e. Temple, UConn, Cincy. I highly doubt the AAC will not be raided by the ACC soon. Their #1 target is UConn due to the academic profile, location, and very impressive basketball success both men's and women's. UConn will be in the ACC before we know it. So that leaves Cincy, Memphis, Temple, UCF, SMU, USF, Tulane, etc. etc. That is not a major hoops conference IMO with likely 2 bids almost guaranteed. That's the C-USA. UConn's departure will turn it from major to high mid-major like an A-10. So once UConn leaves I doubt Cincy and Memphis stay.