Sat 2/1 BE (5 Gs, SH-XU, MU-SJ, PC-DeP, GU-MSU, VU-Temple)

[stever20]

That win yesterday by GTown was a real game changer. That win gives them three really strong wins OOC, and I think if they get to 11, when combining the season and the tournament, will get them in.

Let's assume that Nova and CU are locks. To get ONLY those two, you're talking about the bottom winning a bunch of games and not just a few. Plus, the winners of the 3/6 and 4/5 games in the Garden would all have an additional quality win to boost their RPI/SOS/Top 100 win stock that is not reflected in any of the metric estimations run by other sites. So I don't see us getting 2, and we'll probably do better than 3 if you ask me, because Butler and DePaul won't win enough to be really penal..

The real wild card here is St. Johns. I think if they can stay out of the first day at MSG (finishing 6th or better in conference) that they'll have a shot at winning the whole thing equal to CU/VU due to momentum, athletic talent, and being at home. And then, there's a path to five teams anyway, with GTown getting back in the convo. At the risk of saying something that will sound like nails on a chalkboard to a lot of this board, what would be really nice for the conference would be for Marquette to turn into a donor here on top of the teams that are expected to be lesser for the season's remainder.

You realize that For Georgetown to get to 11(which sounds about right)- they would have to win 8 more games in 9 regular season games and at most 3 BET games. That's a huge reach for a team that has gone 3-6 in 2014.

The problem that we have is you look past Nova and Creighton. Providence and Xavier have almost no room for an unexpected loss. Their current projections- if they lose 1 more game than they are expected to- they're in deep trouble. And guess what- both play at Butler in a game they're projected to win. So, if Butler wins those 2 games- Providence and Xavier would have to make up that loss somewhere. I don't think it'd shock anyone to see Butler win at least 1 of those 2 games.

I do agree that the winners of the 3/6 and 4/5 games would have an additional QW. The issue there would be though if it's 5 and 6 winning- that could KO a bubble 3/4 team.

He means 11 total. we already have 3 so we just need to get 8 more wins between the last 9 games and 1-3 BET games. The Hoyas have 7 very winnable games now before ending the season with the 2 conference leaders. Hoyas are going on a win streak, they'll be in the tournament.

I know he means 11 total. We have 3. We need 8 now between the 9 remaining games and then by definition the first 2 BET games(if we win our 8th game in the BE Final we're NCAA bound regardless). So next 11 games would need to go 8-3(or 8-2 in next 10 if we lost 1st round of BET).

[stever20]

That win yesterday by GTown was a real game changer. That win gives them three really strong wins OOC, and I think if they get to 11, when combining the season and the tournament, will get them in.

Let's assume that Nova and CU are locks. To get ONLY those two, you're talking about the bottom winning a bunch of games and not just a few. Plus, the winners of the 3/6 and 4/5 games in the Garden would all have an additional quality win to boost their RPI/SOS/Top 100 win stock that is not reflected in any of the metric estimations run by other sites. So I don't see us getting 2, and we'll probably do better than 3 if you ask me, because Butler and DePaul won't win enough to be really penal..

The real wild card here is St. Johns. I think if they can stay out of the first day at MSG (finishing 6th or better in conference) that they'll have a shot at winning the whole thing equal to CU/VU due to momentum, athletic talent, and being at home. And then, there's a path to five teams anyway, with GTown getting back in the convo. At the risk of saying something that will sound like nails on a chalkboard to a lot of this board, what would be really nice for the conference would be for Marquette to turn into a donor here on top of the teams that are expected to be lesser for the season's remainder.

You realize that For Georgetown to get to 11(which sounds about right)- they would have to win 8 more games in 9 regular season games and at most 3 BET games. That's a huge reach for a team that has gone 3-6 in 2014.

The problem that we have is you look past Nova and Creighton. Providence and Xavier have almost no room for an unexpected loss. Their current projections- if they lose 1 more game than they are expected to- they're in deep trouble. And guess what- both play at Butler in a game they're projected to win. So, if Butler wins those 2 games- Providence and Xavier would have to make up that loss somewhere. I don't think it'd shock anyone to see Butler win at least 1 of those 2 games.

I do agree that the winners of the 3/6 and 4/5 games would have an additional QW. The issue there would be though if it's 5 and 6 winning- that could KO a bubble 3/4 team.

Steve, what you're claiming couldn't be less true.

What- Providence and Xavier? Right now both are projected to be 20-11. If they lose 1 more game each- to be 19-12, their projected RPI's are 50.6 for Xavier and 61.4 for Providence. Xavier would likely need 1 win in the BET- and PC at that point with that rpi might need 2 wins.

[SJUREDMEN85]

We took PC to 2OT`s at Carnesecca, so why can`t we return the favor and win there. Don`t be surprised.

One game at a time.