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Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:27 am
by Fieldhouse Flyer
On November 11th Fieldhouse Flyer wrote:
CBS Sports' 1-351 College Basketball Rankings

# 186 Wagner beat # 19 UConn tonight 67-58 at UConn. The Huskies are ranked # 18 in the AP Poll and # 16 in the Coaches Poll.

CBS Sports ranked Northeastern at # 235.

Two alarming early losses have UConn searching for answers - Jeff Eisenberg - The Dagger - November 15, 2016
Wagner followed their win over UConn with an 11-point setback against mighty UMass Lowell [ranked # 292 by CBS Sports].

The Huskies shot just 37.8 percent from the field against Wagner, hit only 6 of 19 threes and dished out just nine assists. They fared no better against Northeastern, shooting only 39.1 percent from the field and 5-for-21 from behind the arc.

Connecticut Huskies 2016-17 Basketball Schedule

Next up: UConn @ Loyola Marymount [ranked # 136 by CBS Sports] in Los Angeles on Thursday.


Connecticut Huskies 2016-17 Football Schedule

With two games left to play, the Football Huskies are in last place, riding a 4-game losing streak.

Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:29 am
by JohnW22
Top of the AAC

Cincinnati(21) (2-0)- Wins over Brown(263) and Albany(164), Next Game Rhode Island(34)
SMU(33) (2-0)- WIns over Gardner Webb(262) and EMU(88), Next Game Pittsburg(52)
UCONN(64) (0-2)- Losses to Wagner(204) and Northeastern(163), Next game Loyola Marymount(214)
Houston(75) (1-0)- Win over Morgan State(342), Next Game Angelo State
Memphis(92) (1-0)- Win over UT Rio Grande Valley(341), Next Game Milwaukee(228)
Temple(124) (1-1)- Win over Las alle(100) Loss to New Hampshire(157), Next Game UMASS(145)
Tulsa(137) (0-1)- Loss to Jacksonville State(283), Next Game Wichita State(27)

No argueing the AAC has been a terrible situation for UCONN and there won't be may good opportunities to pick up good conference wins. I know it's early in the season but that's all we got so far.

Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:51 am
by stever20
JohnW22 wrote:Top of the AAC

Cincinnati(21) (2-0)- Wins over Brown(263) and Albany(164), Next Game Rhode Island(34)
SMU(33) (2-0)- WIns over Gardner Webb(262) and EMU(88), Next Game Pittsburg(52)
UCONN(64) (0-2)- Losses to Wagner(204) and Northeastern(163), Next game Loyola Marymount(214)
Houston(75) (1-0)- Win over Morgan State(342), Next Game Angelo State
Memphis(92) (1-0)- Win over UT Rio Grande Valley(341), Next Game Milwaukee(228)
Temple(124) (1-1)- Win over Las alle(100) Loss to New Hampshire(157), Next Game UMASS(145)
Tulsa(137) (0-1)- Loss to Jacksonville State(283), Next Game Wichita State(27)

No argueing the AAC has been a terrible situation for UCONN and there won't be may good opportunities to pick up good conference wins. I know it's early in the season but that's all we got so far.

It's kind of dumb to use this. I mean, look at the wins that the Big East has. 1 of the what 14 now means anything- and 2 inside the top 100. Cincy and SMU are going to be good teams this year.

And UConn has the schedule Maui, Syracuse, Ohio St, Auburn, Georgetown. IF they bounce back with playing better teams, the 2 bad losses won't hurt them much at all.

Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:16 am
by billyjack
Northeastern has been upticking if we ever expand into Massachusetts.
Good team, good coach, downtown Boston, private, school is growing, and some great wins in recent years.
The CAA has been solid recently too. Keep an eye on these guys.
They're on the border of being a legitimate candidate.

Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:32 am
by GoldenWarrior11
Does Kevin Ollie always look like he is pouting and whining???

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Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:35 pm
by GumbyDamnit!
What this shows is that national programs who lose a HOF coach can't always just keep rolling without some set backs. Ollie can cerainly recruit. Might be becuase he is a former NBA player or that he has a ring, but he is getting talent there. HIs X's and O's might just not be up to par. For programs like UNC (Matt Doherty) and UK (Billy Gillespie) they often recover from bad hires because they are a blue blood and their alumni and administration will do anything to maintain that level of excellence. But for someone like a UCONN, although they have 4 NC's they are not a true Blue Blood. And let's face facts that there are aspects of the AAC that ARE a tough sell. UCONN v Tulane or ECU or Tulsa just doesn't carry much juice. So I may not agree that UConn is necessarily toast this year or in the near future, their performance since the NC has been so below what can normally be expected from a program like UConn.

And Stever, you are right that they have some chances to get big wins, but starting 0-2 to two non-tourney teams (NCAA or NIT or CBA) on your home floor, is not a good sign and will really damage their KPI/Kenpom #'s.

Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:18 pm
by stever20
GumbyDamnit! wrote:What this shows is that national programs who lose a HOF coach can't always just keep rolling without some set backs. Ollie can cerainly recruit. Might be becuase he is a former NBA player or that he has a ring, but he is getting talent there. HIs X's and O's might just not be up to par. For programs like UNC (Matt Doherty) and UK (Billy Gillespie) they often recover from bad hires because they are a blue blood and their alumni and administration will do anything to maintain that level of excellence. But for someone like a UCONN, although they have 4 NC's they are not a true Blue Blood. And let's face facts that there are aspects of the AAC that ARE a tough sell. UCONN v Tulane or ECU or Tulsa just doesn't carry much juice. So I may not agree that UConn is necessarily toast this year or in the near future, their performance since the NC has been so below what can normally be expected from a program like UConn.

And Stever, you are right that they have some chances to get big wins, but starting 0-2 to two non-tourney teams (NCAA or NIT or CBA) on your home floor, is not a good sign and will really damage their KPI/Kenpom #'s.


But recruiting hasn't dropped off for UConn. If anything, it's picked up in the AAC(part of that is the exposure that was in the old Big East was really not that good at all compared to what both the New Big East and the AAC have gotten).

About your 2nd point- at least last years committee viewed teams losign to bad teams, but then beating good teams as being stronger than the opposite. So if UConn goes to Hawaii and beats Oklahoma St and UNC- they're viewed as being better in the committee's eyes than if they had lost to those teams, but beat Wagner and Northeastern. Not really sure I agree with that- but it definitely showed last year.

Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:34 pm
by JohnW22
stever20 wrote:
JohnW22 wrote:Top of the AAC

Cincinnati(21) (2-0)- Wins over Brown(263) and Albany(164), Next Game Rhode Island(34)
SMU(33) (2-0)- WIns over Gardner Webb(262) and EMU(88), Next Game Pittsburg(52)
UCONN(64) (0-2)- Losses to Wagner(204) and Northeastern(163), Next game Loyola Marymount(214)
Houston(75) (1-0)- Win over Morgan State(342), Next Game Angelo State
Memphis(92) (1-0)- Win over UT Rio Grande Valley(341), Next Game Milwaukee(228)
Temple(124) (1-1)- Win over Las alle(100) Loss to New Hampshire(157), Next Game UMASS(145)
Tulsa(137) (0-1)- Loss to Jacksonville State(283), Next Game Wichita State(27)

No argueing the AAC has been a terrible situation for UCONN and there won't be may good opportunities to pick up good conference wins. I know it's early in the season but that's all we got so far.

It's kind of dumb to use this. I mean, look at the wins that the Big East has. 1 of the what 14 now means anything- and 2 inside the top 100. Cincy and SMU are going to be good teams this year.

And UConn has the schedule Maui, Syracuse, Ohio St, Auburn, Georgetown. IF they bounce back with playing better teams, the 2 bad losses won't hurt them much at all.

That's why I said it's early in the season but that's all we got. I love how you say this is kind of dumb to use when you're the one who was making a big deal about NCAA tournament locations from a preseason bracketology.

Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:44 pm
by Westbrook#36
JohnW22 wrote:
stever20 wrote:
JohnW22 wrote:Top of the AAC

Cincinnati(21) (2-0)- Wins over Brown(263) and Albany(164), Next Game Rhode Island(34)
SMU(33) (2-0)- WIns over Gardner Webb(262) and EMU(88), Next Game Pittsburg(52)
UCONN(64) (0-2)- Losses to Wagner(204) and Northeastern(163), Next game Loyola Marymount(214)
Houston(75) (1-0)- Win over Morgan State(342), Next Game Angelo State
Memphis(92) (1-0)- Win over UT Rio Grande Valley(341), Next Game Milwaukee(228)
Temple(124) (1-1)- Win over Las alle(100) Loss to New Hampshire(157), Next Game UMASS(145)
Tulsa(137) (0-1)- Loss to Jacksonville State(283), Next Game Wichita State(27)

No argueing the AAC has been a terrible situation for UCONN and there won't be may good opportunities to pick up good conference wins. I know it's early in the season but that's all we got so far.

It's kind of dumb to use this. I mean, look at the wins that the Big East has. 1 of the what 14 now means anything- and 2 inside the top 100. Cincy and SMU are going to be good teams this year.

And UConn has the schedule Maui, Syracuse, Ohio St, Auburn, Georgetown. IF they bounce back with playing better teams, the 2 bad losses won't hurt them much at all.

That's why I said it's early in the season but that's all we got. I love how you say this is kind of dumb to use when you're the one who was making a big deal about NCAA tournament locations from a preseason bracketology.


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Re: Conference realignment thread v. 2016

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:48 pm
by stever20
JohnW22 wrote:
stever20 wrote:
JohnW22 wrote:Top of the AAC

Cincinnati(21) (2-0)- Wins over Brown(263) and Albany(164), Next Game Rhode Island(34)
SMU(33) (2-0)- WIns over Gardner Webb(262) and EMU(88), Next Game Pittsburg(52)
UCONN(64) (0-2)- Losses to Wagner(204) and Northeastern(163), Next game Loyola Marymount(214)
Houston(75) (1-0)- Win over Morgan State(342), Next Game Angelo State
Memphis(92) (1-0)- Win over UT Rio Grande Valley(341), Next Game Milwaukee(228)
Temple(124) (1-1)- Win over Las alle(100) Loss to New Hampshire(157), Next Game UMASS(145)
Tulsa(137) (0-1)- Loss to Jacksonville State(283), Next Game Wichita State(27)

No argueing the AAC has been a terrible situation for UCONN and there won't be may good opportunities to pick up good conference wins. I know it's early in the season but that's all we got so far.

It's kind of dumb to use this. I mean, look at the wins that the Big East has. 1 of the what 14 now means anything- and 2 inside the top 100. Cincy and SMU are going to be good teams this year.

And UConn has the schedule Maui, Syracuse, Ohio St, Auburn, Georgetown. IF they bounce back with playing better teams, the 2 bad losses won't hurt them much at all.

That's why I said it's early in the season but that's all we got. I love how you say this is kind of dumb to use when you're the one who was making a big deal about NCAA tournament locations from a preseason bracketology.

All I was saying with the bracketology is that if you're 6-8 seed, you have a very good chance of playing on the road in the NCAA tourney. That's it.

we'll learn a ton more about all teams in the next 2 weeks. I mean right now, how much do we know about St John's? Playing 338 Bethune Cookman and 258 Binghamton doesn't reveal a whole hell of a lot.