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Re: Weekend of 2/8 and 2/9, BE (3 Games, BU-GU, PC-XU, CU-SJ

Postby GreatDaneAttorney » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:46 pm

ChelseaFriar wrote:
RedStormNation wrote:2 games SJ held Creighton to almost 20 points below their scoring average. Great win…we all knew we were months overdue. We knew this team was capable. The refs were awful again, but SJ found a way to fight through them with good defense. When Creighton does not have their 3 pt game going and McDermott scoring 30+ they are at a disadvantage. McDermott was all but shut down (in his terms) by Sampson. Not sure how many teams have done that. Also glad Creighton was at full strength so no one can say we beat them without Gibbs.


You don't even recognize how obnoxious your first paragraph is immediately after a win, do you? Or maybe you do, but just don't care. Who knows...


As a Creighton fan, I don't see why this is obnoxious. Great win by the Johnnies, who are hitting their stride at a great time.
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Re: Weekend of 2/8 and 2/9, BE (3 Games, BU-GU, PC-XU, CU-SJ

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:46 pm

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GumbyDamnit! wrote:Impressed by Jays fans. Win with class, lose with class. Some members of the original C7 fan bases could learn a thing or two from them.


So far post-game I have seen nothing but class from SJ fans. Credit the Johnnies for the win…you should be happy because we just helped Nova. It's also important to remember that it was essentially a meaningless game for them in terms of March chances. If they were on the bubble too you might see a different side. And that goes for all fan bases. Beginning to sense a bias from you Gumby. Hope I'm wrong.

What are you talking about? I credited Jays fans. Period. I made NO mention of SJU but specifically said C7 fans which last time I recall includes Nova as well. Get over yourself.
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Re: Weekend of 2/8 and 2/9, BE (3 Games, BU-GU, PC-XU, CU-SJ

Postby Trifecta » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:47 pm

RedStormNation wrote:
GumbyDamnit! wrote:Impressed by Jays fans. Win with class, lose with class. Some members of the original C7 fan bases could learn a thing or two from them.


So far post-game I have seen nothing but class from SJ fans. Credit the Johnnies for the win…you should be happy because we just helped Nova. It's also important to remember that it was essentially a meaningless game for them in terms of March chances. If they were on the bubble too you might see a different side. And that goes for all fan bases. Beginning to sense a bias from you Gumby. Hope I'm wrong.


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Re: Weekend of 2/8 and 2/9, BE (3 Games, BU-GU, PC-XU, CU-SJ

Postby GreatDaneAttorney » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:48 pm

muskienick wrote:Creighton's free throw shooting (or lack thereof) blew the game and St. John's D made those mistakes the difference. You simply can't shoot 56% from the FT line and less than 24% from beyond the arc and hope to win. It's one thing to defend the treys; it's impossible to defend shots from the free throw line. Creighton lost a game here because of their poor shooting.


Which I think was a direct result of playing in an historic arena in front of a large crowd against a defense that never gives up. The remainder of the season is going to test Creighton's mental strength, which wasn't tested nearly as much in the MVC.
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Postby chicagojayfan » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:17 pm

GreatDaneAttorney wrote:
muskienick wrote:Creighton's free throw shooting (or lack thereof) blew the game and St. John's D made those mistakes the difference. You simply can't shoot 56% from the FT line and less than 24% from beyond the arc and hope to win. It's one thing to defend the treys; it's impossible to defend shots from the free throw line. Creighton lost a game here because of their poor shooting.


Which I think was a direct result of playing in an historic arena in front of a large crowd against a defense that never gives up. The remainder of the season is going to test Creighton's mental strength, which wasn't tested nearly as much in the MVC.


good luck with that approach... FT's and shots will fall next time.

If you feel so strongly about that in the valley why don't you ask your team to schedule a home and away with Wichita.
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Re: Weekend of 2/8 and 2/9, BE (3 Games, BU-GU, PC-XU, CU-SJ

Postby Omaha1 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:17 pm

Funny thought:

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You know a player is somewhat decent when the TV broadcast's player of the game honor goes to the man who held him to 25. #dougie
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Postby BluejaysForThree » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:19 pm

GreatDaneAttorney wrote:
muskienick wrote:Creighton's free throw shooting (or lack thereof) blew the game and St. John's D made those mistakes the difference. You simply can't shoot 56% from the FT line and less than 24% from beyond the arc and hope to win. It's one thing to defend the treys; it's impossible to defend shots from the free throw line. Creighton lost a game here because of their poor shooting.


Which I think was a direct result of playing in an historic arena in front of a large crowd against a defense that never gives up. The remainder of the season is going to test Creighton's mental strength, which wasn't tested nearly as much in the MVC.


Yeah the Jays are going to need to step it up from here on out. Of course, in a tough league like the Big East - there are going to be some tough nights and tough losses... CU is still 9-2 in their first season in the new Big East - to me that's awesome and still above expectations. St. John's is a heck of a team, and has really put itself in position to maybe grab a bid in the Big Dance, just have to keep up their hot streak and they will be fine. I am bummed that CU missed so many open shots and free throws, but like an above poster mentioned, its more of a balancing of the law of averages - you can't shoot the lights out every night, and against a team like the Johnnies, they will expose that - as they did tonight. Not a bad loss for CU by any stretch of the imagination.

On to Butler Thursday night, which won't be an easy one by any means - there are no off nights in the Big East, and that's what makes this awesome.
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Re: Weekend of 2/8 and 2/9, BE (3 Games, BU-GU, PC-XU, CU-SJ

Postby RedStormNation » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:20 pm

I've seen people condemn SJ fans for being jerks to Creighton fans (and rightfully so) and now I'm seeing people also condemn SJ fans for being good sports after the big win. Which is it? This is the definition of bias. Sometimes it's damned if you do and damned if you don't with certain people. There are sour grapes fans of every team and there are moderates of every team who are more humble…accept it and be done with it. Not seeing much conflict between SJ and CU fans tonight. 2 great programs and 2 passionate fan bases. Only anger I'm seeing is from PC and Nova fans. Come on guys.

Tonight was the most entertaining Big East game I've watched all year. Even though it was very close it was fun to watch regardless of the outcome. This is the type of game that might take people on the fence and make them pay attention to the Big East and FS1. This game only matters if SJ keeps it up. I think we needed 1 out of Nova/Creighton. We got that. Now we need to take care of business against teams we should and repay G'Town. Can't even remember the last time we beat them. This is like a giant comeback tour. It's nice to be on the other side of the fence. Creighton will be fine and they will find their 3 PT range again very soon. Nice battle today and I loved the scrappiness from both teams. Glad to see Gibbs is back for you guys…when McDermott has him as a sidekick your team really is on another level.
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Re: Weekend of 2/8 and 2/9, BE (3 Games, BU-GU, PC-XU, CU-SJ

Postby ChelseaFriar » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:25 pm

I'm defintely not angry. The SJU win was likely good for the conference's NCAA Tourney profile.

I'm just not into boasting after a win on a shared message board. No big deal, just a personal preference.

Was defintely a great game. I wish I walked 10 blocks north and bought a ticket.

Love Sampson's game and he has a great personality.
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Re: Weekend of 2/8 and 2/9, BE (3 Games, BU-GU, PC-XU, CU-SJ

Postby RedStormNation » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:33 pm

ChelseaFriar wrote:I'm defintely not angry. The SJU win was likely good for the conference's NCAA Tourney profile.

I'm just not into boasting after a win on a shared message board. No big deal, just a personal preference.

Was defintely a great game. I wish I walked 10 blocks north and bought a ticket.


I don't see it as boasting, I see it as a great win for SJ probably the best they will have all year. SJ fans have been waiting for a win like this for a while after losing by 3 in Omaha, by 7 vs. Nova, by 5 vs. Cuse, etc. No reason not to be joyful if you are a SJ fan. And that's a fact that SJ's defense held Creighton to 20 points below their average for the season. Held to 63 the first game and 65 the second game. They normally score 83. That says it was no fluke. Don't get me wrong the SJ defense has plenty of holes…we can't seem to stop cuts and until recently the 3 ball from opponents has killed us. But our defense definitely makes games messy and turns it into a gritty matchup. Kind of reminds me of G'Town's defense…you see some very weird scores because they hold opponents with their defense so well. I also gave CU fans their due. No need to look for controversy where there is none.

By the way CU fans, I couldn't help but smirk when McDermott stole Pointer's attempted pass and slammed it in his face…I know you guys were loving it haha :lol: . He's a love/hate player. He makes dumb mistakes but he also makes insane plays and saves games. Never know which Dom will show up. I wish I went to the game tonight. I'm only an hour train ride away from the Garden directly, but I have to get up at 6 AM :x . Also, every time I go to the Garden, SJ loses :roll: .
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