How Hot Are Our Coaches Seats?

[Burrito]

Article about how Mullin pieced together this year's roster. Lavin really left the cupboard bare.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/22/inside-chr ... -st-johns/

[DudeAnon]

Article about how Mullin pieced together this year's roster. Lavin really left the cupboard bare.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/22/inside-chr ... -st-johns/

That was a great read, thanks.

[OmahaGuy]

Article about how Mullin pieced together this year's roster. Lavin really left the cupboard bare.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/22/inside-chr ... -st-johns/

Excellent read about Mullin and the program. The more I think about it, the more I think he's gonna take NYC by storm. Both by recruiting NYC kids and drawing big crowds.

[stever20]

I think the interesting quote is the one from Slice:
“It’s almost incomprehensible and it’s also dangerous,” said Rohrssen, the former Manhattan College head coach who is known for his dapper three-piece suits and recruiting prowess. “Unknown. Five kids are freshmen. It’s different from any level they’ve played at before. It’s a big adjustment for kids.

“My feelings are we did the best we could possibly do in the time frame we had in the situation we were given.”

[NJRedman]

On a scale of 1 (Ice cold) to 10 (Red hot) how is each of our ten coaches seats? I don't know how each fan base feels about their coaches so I'm just guessing. How do you guys feel about your coach and the others in the league?

St. John's/Chris Mullin- 1 Freezing, Mullin is the golden boy who returned home. Everyone is still feeling good about the hire.

Villanova/Jay Wright- 3 Cold, Wright has his team as the class of the league but I'm sure fans aren't happy with the quick exits from the NCAA tourney.

Actually here's what you said, Jay's seat is hotter than Mullin's, sorry that's just not the case. You can't make a rational argument that Mullin has more job security than Jay, you just can't. JW has years of equity build upon running a very successful program. The last 2 early exits are disappointing, but being ranked in the top 10 for 95% of those 2 years surely isn't. Not to mention Jay's excellent recruiting. Mullin has to turn around a program, win some NCAA tourney games, and recruit at a high level. All things Jay has accomplished for a long time. Sorry Mullins seat is most definitely warmer than Wright's.

As always, it's hilarious when St. John's fans speak of others insecurity, oh the delusions of grandeur. BTW, we didn't show up in this thread until you and your fellow St. John's cronies started talking shit.

No one was talking shit until you and your fellow cry babies started shit talking St. John's! You Nova fans started all the shot talking. Guess what, your coach under achieved the last two years. Not shit talking, fact staying. Now go on about how we suck, that's fine. You're still underachievers.

[marquette]

I think he's gonna take NYC by storm.

Heh heh, I see what you did there.

[OmahaGuy]

I think he's gonna take NYC by storm.

Heh heh, I see what you did there.

Holy crap I didn't even notice that!! Anyways, back to that St. John's piece, I really like the part where it says, "Neither was comfortable in Mullin's demanding and rigorous schedule for players where discipline and accountability-not talent-is valued first". It was referring to Rysheed Jordan and Chris Obekpa. It's good to see Mullin cleaned the house and laid down his law immediately. He's not gonna take any BS.

[GumbyDamnit!]

Guess what, your coach under achieved the last two years. Not shit talking, fact staying. Now go on about how we suck, that's fine. You're still underachievers.

So let's talk about facts since you brought it up.

Nova's record in the past 2 years is 62-8 (89% winning pct.). Their record in conference is 32-4 (also 89% winning pct.) with two regular season championships and a BET championship. I believe they were picked to finish in 4th in that first year. There are 6 conf teams that have not yet beaten Nova since the new conference was formed. 6 out of 9, including SJU. They have been ranked in the Top 5 both of the last two years, and no other BE teams have earned more tourney credits than Nova (directly putting $ in SJU's pockets--you're welcome.) So run by us all again how Nova should be feeling that they are the underachievers in the conference?

Now SJU on the other hand is probably the poster child for long term underachievement. In year one of the conference you had a future NBA player in Sampson, perhaps the best 2 guard in the league in Harrison, the best rim protector in the country in Obekpa, one of the most all-around, do-everything, gifted athletes on the wing in Pointer and one of the top 3-4 PG's coming out of HS in Jordan. Result? 6 games behind Nova in the conf standings, a first round BET loss on your home court when a win would have gotten you in the tourney, another first round exit in the NIT, on your home court, as a 1 seed. Year 2? Mediocre league record again--6 games behind Nova in the standings yet again, in a season that included a 37 point loss to the team that you feel underachieved. They squeak into the tourney only to lose by double digits in a toss up 8/9 game.

And we're the underachievers? Exhibit A of the delusion of SJU Nation...

[Red Rooster]

Guess what, your coach under achieved the last two years. Not shit talking, fact staying. Now go on about how we suck, that's fine. You're still underachievers.

So let's talk about facts since you brought it up.

Nova's record in the past 2 years is 62-8 (89% winning pct.). Their record in conference is 32-4 (also 89% winning pct.) with two regular season championships and a BET championship. I believe they were picked to finish in 4th in that first year. There are 6 conf teams that have not yet beaten Nova since the new conference was formed. 6 out of 9, including SJU. They have been ranked in the Top 5 both of the last two years, and no other BE teams have earned more tourney credits than Nova (directly putting $ in SJU's pockets--you're welcome.) So run by us all again how Nova should be feeling that they are the underachievers in the conference?

Now SJU on the other hand is probably the poster child for long term underachievement. In year one of the conference you had a future NBA player in Sampson, perhaps the best 2 guard in the league in Harrison, the best rim protector in the country in Obekpa, one of the most all-around, do-everything, gifted athletes on the wing in Pointer and one of the top 3-4 PG's coming out of HS in Jordan. Result? 6 games behind Nova in the conf standings, a first round BET loss on your home court when a win would have gotten you in the tourney, another first round exit in the NIT, on your home court, as a 1 seed. Year 2? Mediocre league record again[/b]--6 games behind Nova in the standings yet again, in a season that included a 37 point loss to the team that you feel underachieved. [b]They squeak into the tourney only to lose by double digits in a toss up 8/9 game.

And we're the underachievers? Exhibit A of the delusion of SJU Nation...

Highlighted aren't "facts." It's opinionated or subjective.

[stever20]

St John's definitely under-achieved in the regular season....

However- that doesn't mean that Nova didn't underachieve in the tourney. To have a 2 and 1 seed- and not advance out of the 1st weekend- there's no way to dismiss that isn't underachieving themselves.

Let's say this- to casual fans- Nova has underachieved WAY more than St John's(or frankly any other Big East school) the last 2 years. Yes the 62-8 record looks wonderful. But College Basketball is primarily what have you done in March, and there's no way to say that Nova hasn't underachieved in March. Nova has to mean more in March than just the piccolo girl.