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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:57 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Tulsa is still listed as being one of the first four out. CBS announcing crew also said they wouldn't let Tulsa in due to a D2 loss (which doesn't count in RPI), but committee will still look at it and take it as part of consideration. Big East still has 6 schools in.

I think the thing with Tulsa if they win today- they're conference champs. Normally if you are a conference champ of a top 10 league, you are going to get in if it's close. They would move into the top 40 RPI and have 3 top 50 wins.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:29 pm

All bubble teams must be getting nervous. Southern Illinois up 10 on Northern Iowa mid-1st half.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Jet915 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:36 pm

With Xavier's win, they are a lock imo. Now its all about seeding which will be determined at the BET. 6 Big East teams in the tournament is awesome.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:41 pm

Jet915 wrote:With Xavier's win, they are a lock imo. Now its all about seeding which will be determined at the BET. 6 Big East teams in the tournament is awesome.

totally agree. Like I said what's weird is going to the BET with absolutely no bubble teams- been a long time since we've said that.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Bill Marsh » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:52 pm

stever20 wrote:
GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Tulsa is still listed as being one of the first four out. CBS announcing crew also said they wouldn't let Tulsa in due to a D2 loss (which doesn't count in RPI), but committee will still look at it and take it as part of consideration. Big East still has 6 schools in.

I think the thing with Tulsa if they win today- they're conference champs. Normally if you are a conference champ of a top 10 league, you are going to get in if it's close. They would move into the top 40 RPI and have 3 top 50 wins.


Top 40 only because the SE Oklahoma State game isn't included. Factor that game in and they're barely top 50.

Are you suggesting that Buffalo is a lock if they're upset in the MAC tournament?
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:37 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
stever20 wrote:
GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Tulsa is still listed as being one of the first four out. CBS announcing crew also said they wouldn't let Tulsa in due to a D2 loss (which doesn't count in RPI), but committee will still look at it and take it as part of consideration. Big East still has 6 schools in.

I think the thing with Tulsa if they win today- they're conference champs. Normally if you are a conference champ of a top 10 league, you are going to get in if it's close. They would move into the top 40 RPI and have 3 top 50 wins.


Top 40 only because the SE Oklahoma State game isn't included. Factor that game in and they're barely top 50.

Are you suggesting that Buffalo is a lock if they're upset in the MAC tournament?

No. The AAC is far better of a league than the MAC is. You don't want to acknowledge that at all. If Tulsa wins today and beats Temple for a 3rd time in the SF- it's tough for me to see any scenario where Tulsa would be out. Tulsa would be 24-9.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby gosports1 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:44 pm

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gosports1 wrote:i hope im wrong but i got a feeling Xavier is in danger of being the team this year thatis left out and everyone is wondering why. There is always at least one that is deserving but doesnt make it in for one reason or another.
A strong showing in the BE tourney i think will change that. If they are 1 and done in the BE i will be concerned


No chance Xavier is left out. Who do you think they'll take instead? :?



could be anyone on the bubble. Texas, ODU, Tulsa anyone that pulls upset in tourney and thus knocks off the favorite (belmont/murray state)
Im not predicting it. jsut seems to happen every year that someone is left out. Is 19-12 good enough? If so is 19-12 in BE better than 19-12 in say the B12 or B10? I think we all would say yes, not sure if the committee would. Maybe im being too pessimistic. i just dont want to be disappointed
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Bill Marsh » Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:29 pm

stever20 wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
stever20 wrote:

I think the thing with Tulsa if they win today- they're conference champs. Normally if you are a conference champ of a top 10 league, you are going to get in if it's close. They would move into the top 40 RPI and have 3 top 50 wins.


Top 40 only because the SE Oklahoma State game isn't included. Factor that game in and they're barely top 50.

Are you suggesting that Buffalo is a lock if they're upset in the MAC tournament?


No. The AAC is far better of a league than the MAC is. You don't want to acknowledge that at all. If Tulsa wins today and beats Temple for a 3rd time in the SF- it's tough for me to see any scenario where Tulsa would be out. Tulsa would be 24-9.


Steve . . .

You're arguing with yourself. Here's what you said:

"Normally if you're a champion of a top ten league, you are going to get in if it's close."

Believe it or not, the MAC is a top ten league this year.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby Xudash » Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:35 pm

stever20 wrote:No. The AAC is far better of a league than the MAC is. You don't want to acknowledge that at all. If Tulsa wins today and beats Temple for a 3rd time in the SF- it's tough for me to see any scenario where Tulsa would be out. Tulsa would be 24-9.


Tulsa lost.
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Re: Bubble Watch

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:38 pm

wow, didn't realize the MAC had snuck up to #10(that speaks more to how the MWC and MVC have fallen off quite frankly).

Problem with Buffalo is they have 4 sub 100 losses, and 0 top 50 wins. Tulsa on the other hand has 2 sub 100 losses(well 1 and then the D2 loss) and 2 top 50 wins.

I think if Tulsa can win make the title game they would have a really good shot. 1st rd against Tulane I guess now(which is the best record of all the bad teams)- and then SF against either #3 Cincy or #6 UConn(at UConn). They're still #47 RPI even after today.
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