Seed Watch

[Bill Marsh]

As far as who is most deserving of a 1-seed, it really doesn't matter if Kansas is out. If Iowa State wins the Big XII, they're more deserving than Wichita State. If Duke, Virginia, or Syracuse wins the ACC, any of them is more deserving.If Wisconsin or Michigan wins the Big Ten, either of them is more deserving.

All anyone has to do is to look at Syracuse's season. They were 25-0 before they lost. If they had Wichita State's schedule, they too could have coasted to 33-0. But they were worn down by the relentless pressure of a really tough schedule. To coarse Wichita sate to a team playing that kind of schedule is ludicrous.

I see posts about how it's not fair to "deny" Wichita State a 1-seed. How is it fair to favor Wichita State over someone like Syracuse and deny Syracuse or whoever wins the ACC who played just as well for so long but didn't get to play the soft schedule that WSU did in finishing out its season undefeated.

[HoosierPal]

Of the 100 bracketoligists participating in the Bracket Matrix, Villanova is the team that is the shakiest as far as a #1 is concerned. And they appear as a #1 on about 95% of the brackets. WSU is about 97%. Kansas isn't in the picture at all. Three have KU as a #1 seed instead of Villanova, and one or two have Syracuse.

The only way this changes is if Villanova doesn't win the Big East and Kansas wins the Big 12. Even then, it would be an upset for KU to move past Villanova.

I spoke too soon. Wow, so much for that #1 seed. Still more tourney to play, but I can see the committee raising a BIG ? on Villanova getting the #1. But whom else is worthy? Could Syracuse get back in? I don't think Kansas gets it no matter if they win the Big 12 or not. Maybe no one wants it?

[stever20]

Of the 100 bracketoligists participating in the Bracket Matrix, Villanova is the team that is the shakiest as far as a #1 is concerned. And they appear as a #1 on about 95% of the brackets. WSU is about 97%. Kansas isn't in the picture at all. Three have KU as a #1 seed instead of Villanova, and one or two have Syracuse.

The only way this changes is if Villanova doesn't win the Big East and Kansas wins the Big 12. Even then, it would be an upset for KU to move past Villanova.

I spoke too soon. Wow, so much for that #1 seed. Still more tourney to play, but I can see the committee raising a BIG ? on Villanova getting the #1. But whom else is worthy? Could Syracuse get back in? I don't think Kansas gets it no matter if they win the Big 12 or not. Maybe no one wants it?

I think Kansas would get it if they won the Big 12. If Wisconsin/Michigan won maybe them.

[HoosierPal]

As far as who is most deserving of a 1-seed, it really doesn't matter if Kansas is out. If Iowa State wins the Big XII, they're more deserving than Wichita State. If Duke, Virginia, or Syracuse wins the ACC, any of them is more deserving.If Wisconsin or Michigan wins the Big Ten, either of them is more deserving.

All anyone has to do is to look at Syracuse's season. They were 25-0 before they lost. If they had Wichita State's schedule, they too could have coasted to 33-0. But they were worn down by the relentless pressure of a really tough schedule. To coarse Wichita sate to a team playing that kind of schedule is ludicrous.

I see posts about how it's not fair to "deny" Wichita State a 1-seed. How is it fair to favor Wichita State over someone like Syracuse and deny Syracuse or whoever wins the ACC who played just as well for so long but didn't get to play the soft schedule that WSU did in finishing out its season undefeated.

Wichita State didn't lose to Boston College or Georgia Tech.

[Bill Marsh]

As far as who is most deserving of a 1-seed, it really doesn't matter if Kansas is out. If Iowa State wins the Big XII, they're more deserving than Wichita State. If Duke, Virginia, or Syracuse wins the ACC, any of them is more deserving.If Wisconsin or Michigan wins the Big Ten, either of them is more deserving.

All anyone has to do is to look at Syracuse's season. They were 25-0 before they lost. If they had Wichita State's schedule, they too could have coasted to 33-0. But they were worn down by the relentless pressure of a really tough schedule. To coarse Wichita sate to a team playing that kind of schedule is ludicrous.

I see posts about how it's not fair to "deny" Wichita State a 1-seed. How is it fair to favor Wichita State over someone like Syracuse and deny Syracuse or whoever wins the ACC who played just as well for so long but didn't get to play the soft schedule that WSU did in finishing out its season undefeated.

Wichita State didn't lose to Boston College or Georgia Tech.

Nor did they beat Villanova and Duke.

[Hoopfan]

As far as who is most deserving of a 1-seed, it really doesn't matter if Kansas is out. If Iowa State wins the Big XII, they're more deserving than Wichita State. If Duke, Virginia, or Syracuse wins the ACC, any of them is more deserving.If Wisconsin or Michigan wins the Big Ten, either of them is more deserving.

All anyone has to do is to look at Syracuse's season. They were 25-0 before they lost. If they had Wichita State's schedule, they too could have coasted to 33-0. But they were worn down by the relentless pressure of a really tough schedule. To coarse Wichita sate to a team playing that kind of schedule is ludicrous.

I see posts about how it's not fair to "deny" Wichita State a 1-seed. How is it fair to favor Wichita State over someone like Syracuse and deny Syracuse or whoever wins the ACC who played just as well for so long but didn't get to play the soft schedule that WSU did in finishing out its season undefeated.

Wichita State didn't lose to Boston College or Georgia Tech.

Nor did they beat Villanova and Duke.

They were not asked to beat them. If going 34-0 is so easy why doesn't it happen every year?

[HoosierPal]

As far as who is most deserving of a 1-seed, it really doesn't matter if Kansas is out. If Iowa State wins the Big XII, they're more deserving than Wichita State. If Duke, Virginia, or Syracuse wins the ACC, any of them is more deserving.If Wisconsin or Michigan wins the Big Ten, either of them is more deserving.

All anyone has to do is to look at Syracuse's season. They were 25-0 before they lost. If they had Wichita State's schedule, they too could have coasted to 33-0. But they were worn down by the relentless pressure of a really tough schedule. To coarse Wichita sate to a team playing that kind of schedule is ludicrous.

I see posts about how it's not fair to "deny" Wichita State a 1-seed. How is it fair to favor Wichita State over someone like Syracuse and deny Syracuse or whoever wins the ACC who played just as well for so long but didn't get to play the soft schedule that WSU did in finishing out its season undefeated.

Wichita State didn't lose to Boston College or Georgia Tech.

Nor did they beat Villanova and Duke.

I won't even mention that Seton Hall beat Villanova. So how many people have you convinced that Wichita State doesn't deserve a #1 seed? Any?

[Bill Marsh]

Wichita State didn't lose to Boston College or Georgia Tech.

Nor did they beat Villanova and Duke.

They were not asked to beat them. If going 34-0 is so easy why doesn't it happen every year?

Who said it was easy? That's not the point.

The committee uses RPI to measure performance. At the end of the conference tournaments, it is unlikely that Wichita State will have one of the top 4 RPIs.

The committee uses quality wins to measure performance. Wichita has 3 wins vs the top 50 with only 1 of those vs the top 25. Here's how the rest of the competition stack up vs the top 50 (top 25 in parentheses):

12 - Kansas (6)
10 - Arizona (3)
9 - Iowa State (2)
8 - Michigan (4)
7 - Wisconsin (3)
6 - Duke (4)
6 - Florida (3)
6 - Creighton (3)
6 - Syracuse (2)
4 - Virginia (2)
3 - Wichita State (1)

[Sumdumguy]

Some may not like how I word this, but I'll give it a shot anyway.

I think there is a strong correlation between the way that WSU got to be ranked #2 in the nation and how they will receive a 1 seed.

They made the FF last year. That earned them the benefit of the doubt to start the season ranked where they were. I don't remember at any point this season where they jumped up in the rankings because they had a great win, they moved up in the rankings because other teams lost. Duke and Kansas are great examples of teams who are given the benefit of the doubt when they lose, as they were ranked ahead of WSU after losing a couple games. WSU didn't win impressive games to get to #2, they simply let the other teams lose their way out of being ranked ahead of them.

This is the same reason WSU will be a 1 seed. As recently as a week or two ago, there were 5 or 6 teams who had very good arguments to be 1 seeds. WSU has rested their case and will allow the other teams to play their way out of the 1 seeds. It worked to get them ranked #2, and so far it is pointing them in the direction of a 1 seed.

[bmorex]

Bump.

Villanova
Creighton
Providence
Xavier

Providence cannot go to the play-in game.

What are your thoughts?