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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:24 pm

handdownmandown wrote:Perhaps you could point me to it then?


I can't.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby handdownmandown » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:26 pm

That didn't exactly say he's healthy.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby handdownmandown » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:27 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
handdownmandown wrote:Perhaps you could point me to it then?


I can't.


Then in the absence of confirmation I'll choose to leave it as an opinion then.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby stever20 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:33 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
Jet915 wrote:Xavier's RPI goes from 37 to 43 which was pretty much what it was before the Creighton game. :roll:


RPI Forecast has it going to 38 and then to 43 when/if they lose to Villanova.

actually just looking at it- RPI Forecast:

Final Record
Expected RPI
Probability
21-9 30.4 20.34%
20-10 40.3 51.92%
19-11 48.1 27.74%

so 19-11 is 48.1.

Worse yet is 19-12. 63.4 is that RPI.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:37 pm

handdownmandown wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
handdownmandown wrote:Perhaps you could point me to it then?


I can't.


Then in the absence of confirmation I'll choose to leave it as an opinion then.


I thought you would. The proof will be in the putting.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:38 pm

stever20 wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
Jet915 wrote:Xavier's RPI goes from 37 to 43 which was pretty much what it was before the Creighton game. :roll:


RPI Forecast has it going to 38 and then to 43 when/if they lose to Villanova.

actually just looking at it- RPI Forecast:

Final Record
Expected RPI
Probability
21-9 30.4 20.34%
20-10 40.3 51.92%
19-11 48.1 27.74%

so 19-11 is 48.1.

Worse yet is 19-12. 63.4 is that RPI.


Try putting the results into RPI Wizard.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:07 pm

handdownmandown wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
handdownmandown wrote:Perhaps you could point me to it then?


I can't.


Then in the absence of confirmation I'll choose to leave it as an opinion then.


Since you asked:

www.buffzone.com/mensbasketball/ci_2512 ... s-injuries

This stuff has been discussed many times over the years. I know it because I've been following it, not because I have a specific source. I'm sure you can find more by googling.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby handdownmandown » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:12 pm

Did you actually read that? Here are the first two paragraphs:

In what could only be interpreted as positive news for the Colorado men's basketball team, NCAA Tournament selection committee chairman Ron Wellman said Wednesday that a significant injury generally impacts seeding more than selection.

In other words, the loss of a key player on a good team is more likely to be a factor into that team's placement within the 68-team bracket rather than, in itself, becoming the determining factor as to whether the team is worthy of a tournament bid.


Heck that just about proves you're wrong about being on the wrong side of the bubble due to an injury.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:14 pm

handdownmandown wrote:Did you actually read that? Here are the first two paragraphs:

In what could only be interpreted as positive news for the Colorado men's basketball team, NCAA Tournament selection committee chairman Ron Wellman said Wednesday that a significant injury generally impacts seeding more than selection.

In other words, the loss of a key player on a good team is more likely to be a factor into that team's placement within the 68-team bracket rather than, in itself, becoming the determining factor as to whether the team is worthy of a tournament bid.


Heck that just about proves you're wrong about being on the wrong side of the bubble due to an injury.


No, it doesn't. Read the rest of it.
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Re: Mon 3/3, Xavier (10-6) at Seton Hall (5-11), 7pm FS1.

Postby handdownmandown » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:18 pm

Ok, I read the whole thing. Now it's about as clear as mud, since the conclusions drawn don't match the commentary, which in itself was pretty opaque.

But assuming you're right, the next question is whether or not the committee considers losing Stain a big deal. Surely Dinwiddie is a bigger deal than Stainbrook.

I'm not saying that isn't a tremendous loss, but they're not on the same level.
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