Tuesday 2/4 Games

[OutlawWales]

Great job by SJ winning. PC with the really stupid hard foul at the end there. You lost…let the whistle blow and end it. Really?

What? I got to say everyone knows how talented St. Johns is and how good they can be on any given night. They played aggressive andflat out beat PC. Good comeback in the second half but too little too late.

But that last play? Your up 10, game is over, 9 seconds left, everyone is going through the motions of the last few seconds, and you decide you want to go for a dunk? Asshole move. PC did the right thing with the hard foul on their Home court. That is the kind of undisciplined,disrespectful, arrogant, and selfish play I've come to expect tfrom the Jonnies under this coach. The players do whatever they want. Its about sportsmanship and respect at that point of the game.

Completely agree. It's plays like that, and nearly every SJU fan I've encountered on here, that makes me actively hope for SJU to lose every game.

[Bill Marsh]

No offense to MCDermott, but Bryce Cotton (due to unforeseen circumstances) found him on a team where he is the only guard. And yet, playing almost every minute of every game, he still can't be stopped. Most of the best guards in the country would be on crutches by this point in the season and having played that many minutes.
Before we all agree on Mcdermott being POY, lets see where providence ends up

Yes.

No.

If you want to see why all you really have to do is compare SJU games vs CU and vs Providence. In both games McDermott and Cotton put their teams on their backs. Creighton won. Providence lost by double digits.

Any other year Cotton would be a serious POY candidate - right now McDermott is the run away NATIONAL POY. Less than a zero percent chance he is not also BE POY.

So, you have an objection until waiting until the season is over? Why?

We're only half way through conference play, but you want to award conference POY now? What's the harm in waiting? McDermott could go out and sustain an injury tomorrow that would keep him out for the next month, in which case he'd have zero chance of being conference POY.

[ChelseaFriar]

No offense to MCDermott, but Bryce Cotton (due to unforeseen circumstances) found him on a team where he is the only guard. And yet, playing almost every minute of every game, he still can't be stopped. Most of the best guards in the country would be on crutches by this point in the season and having played that many minutes.
Before we all agree on Mcdermott being POY, lets see where providence ends up

Yes.

No.

If you want to see why all you really have to do is compare SJU games vs CU and vs Providence. In both games McDermott and Cotton put their teams on their backs. Creighton won. Providence lost by double digits.

Any other year Cotton would be a serious POY candidate - right now McDermott is the run away NATIONAL POY. Less than a zero percent chance he is not also BE POY.

Not sure the win/loss is the reason. Creighton is a better, deeper, more talented team with amazing shooters.

McDermott will win player of the year.

[handdownmandown]

No, not zero. If he got hurt tomorrow I bet he'd still probably win.

[Lavinwood]

Pointer is kind of a bad apple…he got into a fight with Notre Dame last year. There was no reason for Pointer to dunk that, and there was no reason for DeRosiers to touch him. Anyway, who cares…this is not a morality battle, this is a basketball game. Am I allowed to point out the sour grapes of PC fans now, or is that only reserved for SJ fans? You puffed your chests out and ate humble pie. By the way Creighton and Nova fans, no one needs to leapfrog you to be on the bubble for the tourney. I really hope the Creighton and Nova fans jinx their teams by taking SJ lightly. It might already be happening. No one cares if you like our program. We go out there to win the game and tonight we did. I see lots of butthurt from other fan bases right now. If you want to get into a morality contest go talk about Seton Hall having a HS coach pimp out his own player. As much as people say there is an East Coast bias, there is an anti-New York hatred that has run rampant for years now permeating all sports. That's part of our charm. The 1986 Mets would curse you out, punch you in the face, but they won. Don't like it? Oh well.

[Bill Marsh]

No offense to MCDermott, but Bryce Cotton (due to unforeseen circumstances) found him on a team where he is the only guard. And yet, playing almost every minute of every game, he still can't be stopped. Most of the best guards in the country would be on crutches by this point in the season and having played that many minutes.
Before we all agree on Mcdermott being POY, lets see where providence ends up

Yes.

So the guy Vegas has tabbed as the overwhelming favorite for NATIONAL POY may not be the conference POY?

Sure. It's certainly possible.

[handdownmandown]

I don't think you read.

No one is taking you lightly. The only thing we're dismissing is your NCAA tourney chances without a conference tourney title.

[ChelseaFriar]

I've lived in Manhattan for over a decade. I love NY. Doesn't change the fact that I think you come across as a douche.

[Bill Marsh]

No, not zero. If he got hurt tomorrow I bet he'd still probably win.

No he wouldn't. Not a chance. You've got to play more than half a season to be conference POY.

[Bill Marsh]

I don't think you read.

No one is taking you lightly. The only thing we're dismissing is your NCAA tourney chances without a conference tourney title.

Sure that's all you're doing. But you're wrong.