I got one question for Big East basketball fans!

[hoyahooligan]

1 team with FB is nothing to fear. The sky won't fall.

Our mission should be to have the best regional basketball conference that we can build. Not Catholic conference, not private school conference, not non-FBS conference. Best Basketball Conference.

UConn is Tier 1. add UConn.

There is no comparison to VCU, St Louis, Dayton, Richmond, etc.

add UConn.

The issue with Uconn is that they'll leave at the drop of a hat and realistically will eventually get an invite somewhere. Best case we get Uconn for 5 years.

[Burrito]

Dave, I check out the UConn message board from time to time. I have never seen a thread about wanting to join the Big East. Since they are a state school, they believe they should be in the P5. They will wait until they get an invite. I believe they will be waiting a long time but that's just my opinion. It will be interesting to see the quality of Bball recruits they can pull in going forward without Calhoun and being in the American Athletic Conference.

[dmac80]

- add UConn. 11 teams. 20 games.
- create a western scheduling agreement. Doesn't have to be the whole WCC, but maybe the top 3 or 4 of their program barn storm some of our venues for a few years.
The win-win is better OOC schedules, broader national exposure for all programs involved, no whiners about recruiting territory infringement, etc...
- Set up a 4 year series of conference challenges - diff conf each year... ACC, B1G, SEC, and PAC.

1 team with FB is nothing to fear. The sky won't fall.

Our mission should be to have the best regional basketball conference that we can build. Not Catholic conference, not private school conference, not non-FBS conference. Best Basketball Conference.

UConn is Tier 1. add UConn.

There is no comparison to VCU, St Louis, Dayton, Richmond, etc.

add UConn.

I'd love to add UCONN, but only if they committed to every sport but FB and it was strongly worded in the contract. Which I don't see happening (even though they are winless and in shambles this season. And even though I don't EVER see the north east ever caring about college football). If we added UCONN They would instantly be the top franchise and it would be great for the league, but we cannot accept members that play FBS big money football. A foot in the door is all takes, then next thing you know UCONN wants another FBS team in the league, etc etc. We've been down this path before, it's called the old Big East!

[dmac80]

Dave, I check out the UConn message board from time to time. I have never seen a thread about wanting to join the Big East. Since they are a state school, they believe they should be in the P5. They will wait until they get an invite. I believe they will be waiting a long time but that's just my opinion. It will be interesting to see the quality of Bball recruits they can pull in going forward without Calhoun and being in the American Athletic Conference.

They believe they are better than the Big East. The problem is their football program is a laughable joke and will NEVER be a player on the big time scene. They might get an invite somewhere due to their basketball credentials, but they could be waiting quite awhile. If the ACC were to lose some more members due to football realignment then maybe. Time will tell.

In a perfect world UCONN would realize their dreams of big time football are never going to be realized, they'd drop back to whatever the hell they call the 2nd tier, they'd join the Big East in basketball and all other sports, and we'd have the best bb conference in the land.

But you bring up a good point about their future that I had forgotten in my excitement. They have to prove themselves under Ollie. Calhoun was that whole program. It remains to be seen if they'll continue to have the success they had, especially with their current purgatory existence in the AAC. UCONN has been losing a lot of recruiting battles lately, especially to one PC.

[friars321]

Pretty funny thread.
PC fan makes a comment about his excitement for his improved team and how he expects big things.
Marq fan takes it personal. Disrespects "other" schools because Marq is royalty.
-if you are not at the top of the pecking order; you cannot show optimism with your team haha
Then some back and forth...--and talk about UCONN

IMHO, pecking order is determined by success. It changes overtime due to varying degrees of success by a team. If your a Marq or Gtown, be glad your at the top. But don't disrespect other teams within the conference because things can change in life and in college basketball. Just as Marq wants to remain a consistently dominant team, PC fans want to return to the days of Donovan and Pitino.

As far as UCONN, they would be a great add if they dropped football. But thats not going to happen. If we want to add UCONN, why not grab them and Memphis at the same time? They would be 2 outlier schools, but would elevate conference pedigree as "tier 1 types".
-Lets not get too much into expansion talk. I think this has been exhausted over the dry summer months. Its almost time for on court basketball, lets focus on that. Ready for the season to begin!!

[aughnanure]

1 team with FB is nothing to fear. The sky won't fall.

Our mission should be to have the best regional basketball conference that we can build. Not Catholic conference, not private school conference, not non-FBS conference. Best Basketball Conference.

UConn is Tier 1. add UConn.

There is no comparison to VCU, St Louis, Dayton, Richmond, etc.

add UConn.

The issue with Uconn is that they'll leave at the drop of a hat and realistically will eventually get an invite somewhere. Best case we get Uconn for 5 years.

No. The issue with UConn is that they won't come.

[TheHall]

Pretty funny thread.
PC fan makes a comment about his excitement for his improved team and how he expects big things.
Marq fan takes it personal. Disrespects "other" schools because Marq is royalty.
-if you are not at the top of the pecking order; you cannot show optimism with your team haha
Then some back and forth...--and talk about UCONN

IMHO, pecking order is determined by success. It changes overtime due to varying degrees of success by a team. If your a Marq or Gtown, be glad your at the top. But don't disrespect other teams within the conference because things can change in life and in college basketball. Just as Marq wants to remain a consistently dominant team, PC fans want to return to the days of Donovan and Pitino.

As far as UCONN, they would be a great add if they dropped football. But thats not going to happen. If we want to add UCONN, why not grab them and Memphis at the same time? They would be 2 outlier schools, but would elevate conference pedigree as "tier 1 types".
-Lets not get too much into expansion talk. I think this has been exhausted over the dry summer months. Its almost time for on court basketball, lets focus on that. Ready for the season to begin!!

Go Pirates!

[MUBoxer]

Pretty funny thread.
PC fan makes a comment about his excitement for his improved team and how he expects big things.
Marq fan takes it personal. Disrespects "other" schools because Marq is royalty.
-if you are not at the top of the pecking order; you cannot show optimism with your team haha
Then some back and forth...--and talk about UCONN

IMHO, pecking order is determined by success. It changes overtime due to varying degrees of success by a team. If your a Marq or Gtown, be glad your at the top. But don't disrespect other teams within the conference because things can change in life and in college basketball. Just as Marq wants to remain a consistently dominant team, PC fans want to return to the days of Donovan and Pitino.

As far as UCONN, they would be a great add if they dropped football. But thats not going to happen. If we want to add UCONN, why not grab them and Memphis at the same time? They would be 2 outlier schools, but would elevate conference pedigree as "tier 1 types".
-Lets not get too much into expansion talk. I think this has been exhausted over the dry summer months. Its almost time for on court basketball, lets focus on that. Ready for the season to begin!!

Wait I very clearly said I was just trying to start stuff and was being sarcastic on page two.

[MUBoxer]

Again, the issue is what Marquette has done for the Big East.

Marquette should be justifiably proud of the NC, but that didn't do anything for the Big East. And it may have been "about the same time" as some of PC's high points in the '70's, but PC's reputation, based on it's high points in the '60's and '70's, helped to establish the conference's instant credibility while Marquette's high points in that era did nothing for the Big East. And PC's high points in the '80's and '90's helped to sustain the conference's prominence - something which Marquette has only done recently.

No. If you're going to say that prov in the 70s helped the conference before it was born then marquette in 2003 helped just as much for providing credibility for this current conference. I won't argue about the NC of ours because it was a long time ago and really outside of making three teams to brag about national championships it does nothing for the BE.

There is a difference, MU. When the Big East was founded in 1979, it had no history (obviously), so the credentials of the individual members were critical for giving it some initial stature before it proved itself in actual competition. Because PC had been an Eastern power for 2 decades, they were one of the key founding franchises. In contrast, programs like Seton Hall, UConn, BC, and even Georgetown did not being that same track record of recent success.

When Marquette joined in 2005, the Big East was already an established powerhouse of a conference, coming off 2 national championships in the previous 3 years. Although the addition of the new members did give the league's profile a boost to an even higher level, which was nice, it was nothing that the league needed even in the slightest. Its needs for credibility were focused on football, not basketball.

Not about whether the conference needed it or not it's about whether it did add anything and it did. It like how Xavier being a consistent sweet 16 member adds to our credibility, sure we already have marq GTown and nova but it adds to it. Plus the majority of people don't give a damn that Wade was in CUSA the announcers don't say that they just say marquette which is publicity for the BE not CUSA.

[dmac80]

The issue with Uconn is that they'll leave at the drop of a hat and realistically will eventually get an invite somewhere. Best case we get Uconn for 5 years.

I'd make any invite contingent that a school joins for minimum of 10 years. I'd also set it up so that leaving the BE is a huge cost to the school. I hope they;ve done that. We can't make getting out of the conference easy.

That brings us to what your point is, they'd bolt if they could get in a "better" conference, so they probably would never join in the first place. In that case I hope they rot in the AAC.