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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby notkirkcameron » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:38 am

SJHooper wrote:Oh shut up…last I checked we were on the ESPN 30 for 30 movie and not you. Marquette is not exactly lighting the world on fire either. Why are you such a douche?


Yea, probably because the 30 for 30 was about the early years of the Big East, right around the time MU was kicking ass as an independent. MU wasn't featured in the 30 for 30 for the same reason the Dallas Cowboys weren't featured in it.

You're right. We're coming off a lackluster season, but it's not worth going to the trouble of listing our respective histories in the Big East since MU joined in 2005. They speak for themselves.
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby bmorex » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:15 am

I still can't believe there are no 2014 recruits. That's horrible. Like, how is that possible!?
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby ChelseaFriar » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:37 am

TheHall wrote:
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TheHall wrote:PC's future is as bright, but one question I have is even if Dunn returns to form, who keeps him from having to play 35+ mins a night like Ice did this year?



That's the biggest question mark and Cooley's biggest task at hand. PC anticipated having both Dunn and Austin this season (yeah, and people were still picking PC in the bottom half of the league this year) and if we had them both coming back I believe Austin would have picked up 8 MPG at PG next season.

Now we have a recovering Dunn and nobody else to run the point. Cooley is currently attempting to sign a PG. My guess is he would love a combo guard 5th year transfer who is eligible immediately, but that is tough to land. Cooley will definitely sign a PG this Spring. The problem is it will likely be an under-the-radar freshman at this point. We can only hope the kid has a good enough handle to play 8 MPG (and, more importantly, that Dunn is healthy).

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I'm not saying the PG he signs will be a game changer or even a guy who would normally warrant a BE scholarship. But he absolutely has to sign one this spring. If he doesn't, it's a huge failure. Cooley passed on offering PG Tarin Smith (signed with Nebraska) which surprised me.
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby TheHall » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:56 am

ChelseaFriar wrote:
I'm not saying the PG he signs will be a game changer or even a guy who would normally warrant a BE scholarship. But he absolutely has to sign one this spring. If he doesn't, it's a huge failure. Cooley passed on offering PG Tarin Smith (signed with Nebraska) which surprised me.

Not trying to hijack the thread but I don't think Cooley has signed one player who isn't a game changer (let alone BE quality) yet & I don't expect that to change going forward. Good luck.
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby SJHooper » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:32 am

bmorex wrote:I still can't believe there are no 2014 recruits. That's horrible. Like, how is that possible!?


You and us both man...it's very hard to even believe. The 1 thing he was legitimately great at was recruiting and even that has totally gone dry. There has to be some behind the scenes crap going on. It's just so hard being a fan of this team. I was upset but at a certain point you just have to laugh. When it rains, it really pours in Queens. The sooner we get rid of Lavin and our AD the better IMO. If I were SJU I'd fire him asap and immediately start giving Calhoun a call just to see if there's any chance in hell he'd want to take the job. Probably not though...this job is one of the toughest in all of college hoops. Fans are ready to riot (figuratively), nearly everything good associated with this program happened at least 15+ years ago, and if you fail here the media will eat you alive (as well as the fans).

I'm hoping this is rock bottom but I predict that Greene and Jordan will leave and that will be absolute rock bottom. Only this program can go from pre season Sweet 16 potential to no shot at the CBI and a likely 8-10 finish.
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby ChestRockwell85 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:19 pm

The fact that there are no 2014 recruits, there are rumors of Greene and Jordan possibly leaving, also reported that Lavin has his feelers out there, talking to Cal maybe? Why would you not fire this guy? The UCLA people warned St. John's and what they said would happen, has happened. Get rid of Lavin NOW! Again, the fact there are no 2014 recruits, it's not like you have to worry about anyone decommitting.
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby SJHooper » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:35 pm

ChestRockwell85 wrote:The fact that there are no 2014 recruits, there are rumors of Greene and Jordan possibly leaving, also reported that Lavin has his feelers out there, talking to Cal maybe? Why would you not fire this guy? The UCLA people warned St. John's and what they said would happen, has happened. Get rid of Lavin NOW! Again, the fact there are no 2014 recruits, it's not like you have to worry about anyone decommitting.


The latest is that Lavin has supporters "from both sides of the aisle". Ugh.

Nothing you can do about a program that simply does not care about winning. I would bet everything I own that SJ never makes the tourney with Lavin as coach with his own recruits. This guy is totally clueless. All the reports out there saying he can't even run a practice and basically just has them do layups and freethrows then encourages them to practice "free flow" offense aka street ball tell it all.

At this point I'm willing to just roll the dice and try some unproven guy. Just anyone but Lavin. If Cal hires him I will laugh so hard. Their fans will never know what hit them. Lavin is a program destroyer. No clue how to get chemistry or develop players. He could have the 1992 dream team and he'd find a way to make them lose.
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby Bluejay » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:04 pm

SJHooper wrote:...this job is one of the toughest in all of college hoops.


Holy hyperbole, Batman!

With all of the talent right in your backyard, I'd say that the SJU job is anything but "one of the toughest in all of college hoops."
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby SJHooper » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:12 pm

Bluejay wrote:
SJHooper wrote:...this job is one of the toughest in all of college hoops.


Holy hyperbole, Batman!

With all of the talent right in your backyard, I'd say that the SJU job is anything but "one of the toughest in all of college hoops."


True, but I think other coaches are well-aware of the blackhole here. Coaches come and get sucked up. The last time a coach came here and really did very well was Lou who retired in 1992 I believe. Hopefully that means we are due anytime now to strike gold on a coach?
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Re: Obekpa Leaving SJU

Postby SJUREDMEN85 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:45 pm

Read that sju officials called Lavin back on Wednesday night.
Hope they buy him out.
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