Bubble Watch

[stever20]

I'll say another team that while don't think they will do it at all- but if I'm a bubble team I want to see them knocked out in the conference tourney- is Memphis. I think teams should be glad that Memphis isn't hosting the conference tourney quite frankly.

[Bill Marsh]

Tulsa still has enough good games left to elevate their RPI. Also, Jerry Palm was asked about it- and he said that the loss would be a small part to a huge cake.

I refer you to http://www.bracketmatrix.com. Of the 96 forecaster on that spread sheet, only 19 agree with you. So, you're in a distinct minority in thinking they're a candidate for serious consideration.

Of course they have some good teams left on their schedule. Sure, it's possible that they could win them all and impress the heck out of the committee. Anything's "possible" but based on the way they've played so far this year, that's not the kind of team they are. Do you really think they'll elevate their game to become something they haven't been all year?

I don't think you appreciate just how bad that SEOS loss is. Southeast Oklahoma State isn't just a D-II team; they're a bad D-II team with a sub-.500 record vs D-II competition. If a home loss to Houston were added to Tulsa's record, it would drop their RPI to 67. SEOS is at least as bad a blight on their record as a home loss to Houston would be. Are there any other 67 RPI teams that we're talking about as candidates to make the tournament?

While we're at it, look at the rest of their record. 0-4 vs the top 25. Against 26-50, they're .500 (2-2). Nothing to brag about there. Only 3-2 vs 51-100. Not much better. Meanwhile their record is padded with 10 wins vs teams at 200+. Without those 10 absolutely meaningless wins, they're 8-7. Is that really the record of a tournament team?

[stever20]

Tulsa still has enough good games left to elevate their RPI. Also, Jerry Palm was asked about it- and he said that the loss would be a small part to a huge cake.

I refer you to http://www.bracketmatrix.com. Of the 96 forecaster on that spread sheet, only 19 agree with you. So, you're in a distinct minority in thinking they're a candidate for serious consideration.

Of course they have some good teams left on their schedule. Sure, it's possible that they could win them all and impress the heck out of the committee. Anything's "possible" but based on the way they've played so far this year, that's not the kind of team they are. Do you really think they'll elevate their game to become something they haven't been all year?

I don't think you appreciate just how bad that SEOS loss is. Southeast Oklahoma State isn't just a D-II team; they're a bad D-II team with a sub-.500 record vs D-II competition. If a home loss to Houston were added to Tulsa's record, it would drop their RPI to 67. SEOS is at least as bad a blight on their record as a home loss to Houston would be. Are there any other 67 RPI teams that we're talking about as candidates to make the tournament?

While we're at it, look at the rest of their record. 0-4 vs the top 25. Against 26-50, they're .500 (2-2). Nothing to brag about there. Only 3-2 vs 51-100. Not much better. Meanwhile their record is padded with 10 wins vs teams at 200+. Without those 10 absolutely meaningless wins, they're 8-7. Is that really the record of a tournament team?

The issue with that site is that they don't show the sites 1st 4 out. Several of those have Tulsa as one of the 1st 4 teams out. So to say they aren't in serious consideration is frankly a joke.

[Bill Marsh]

Tulsa still has enough good games left to elevate their RPI. Also, Jerry Palm was asked about it- and he said that the loss would be a small part to a huge cake.

I refer you to http://www.bracketmatrix.com. Of the 96 forecaster on that spread sheet, only 19 agree with you. So, you're in a distinct minority in thinking they're a candidate for serious consideration.

Of course they have some good teams left on their schedule. Sure, it's possible that they could win them all and impress the heck out of the committee. Anything's "possible" but based on the way they've played so far this year, that's not the kind of team they are. Do you really think they'll elevate their game to become something they haven't been all year?

I don't think you appreciate just how bad that SEOS loss is. Southeast Oklahoma State isn't just a D-II team; they're a bad D-II team with a sub-.500 record vs D-II competition. If a home loss to Houston were added to Tulsa's record, it would drop their RPI to 67. SEOS is at least as bad a blight on their record as a home loss to Houston would be. Are there any other 67 RPI teams that we're talking about as candidates to make the tournament?

While we're at it, look at the rest of their record. 0-4 vs the top 25. Against 26-50, they're .500 (2-2). Nothing to brag about there. Only 3-2 vs 51-100. Not much better. Meanwhile their record is padded with 10 wins vs teams at 200+. Without those 10 absolutely meaningless wins, they're 8-7. Is that really the record of a tournament team?

The issue with that site is that they don't show the sites 1st 4 out. Several of those have Tulsa as one of the 1st 4 teams out. So to say they aren't in serious consideration is frankly a joke.

I'm glad I could give you a laugh.

So, tell me, how does having them as one of the first four out legitimize them as a tournament bound team?

[stever20]

it means they are definitely a team in serious consideration. If 19 have them in and another 50 have them as one of the first 4 out, that means a lot.

And we'll see how the brackets react to their win now over Temple.

[TBC Alum]

Stever

Try a post ... a single post ... without "if" or "could" in it. Just once. Please

[HoosierPal]

Oregon stepped back into the conversation tonight beating Utah. 20-8 record, 10-5 and 3rd in Pac 12

[Bill Marsh]

Teams working to defend their position:

UMass
NC State
LSU
St. John's
Boise State
Stanford
BYU
Georgia


Teams on the outside working to get in:


St. Mary's
UCLA
Illinois
Pitt

Conference Leaders who are vulnerable in a conference tournament where a loss would throw them into the at-large bubble mix:

Stephen F. Austin (Southland)
Old Dominion (CUSA)
Buffalo (MAC)

X-Factor: Wins conference tournament & bumps bubble team, not the conference leader or runners up:

UConn

Big Ten action had some interesting results. Illinois' home loss to Michigan State took them out of the conversation while Iowa's road win over Nebraska moved them up into the knocking-on-the-door category.

Tulsa's rout of Temple gave a much needed boost to their stock.

[hoyahooligan]

Very Happy to not have to worry about this for my own team this year.

[stever20]

Teams working to defend their position:

UMass
NC State
LSU
St. John's
Boise State
Stanford
BYU
Georgia


Teams on the outside working to get in:


St. Mary's
UCLA
Illinois
Pitt

Conference Leaders who are vulnerable in a conference tournament where a loss would throw them into the at-large bubble mix:

Stephen F. Austin (Southland)
Old Dominion (CUSA)
Buffalo (MAC)

X-Factor: Wins conference tournament & bumps bubble team, not the conference leader or runners up:

UConn

Big Ten action had some interesting results. Illinois' home loss to Michigan State took them out of the conversation while Iowa's road win over Nebraska moved them up into the knocking-on-the-door category.

Tulsa's rout of Temple gave a much needed boost to their stock.

Except that Iowa on the bracket matrix was already AHEAD of Illinois. Illinois isn't out of the conversation at all.